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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2017, 06:34:48 PM »
Canon figured out the number of people that would buy this camera. To get the ROI, they need to sell it at this price.

Sell 10 @ 1300 each or 15 at 866 each.

revenue not equal ROI. Unfortunately ...  ;D

Assuming cost per unit is not much different whether production run is 10 or 15 units, then the 2 examples yield the same revenue but definitely not the same margin, profit and ROI. ;-)


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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2017, 06:34:48 PM »

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2017, 07:03:43 PM »
If it was a Leica everybody would probably consider this camera a bargain ;)

It's a pretty unique toy with a large sensor and a decent lens. Would be really nice to have a leaf shutter too... If Canon wants to position it in a premium compact segment - I don't see any reason why not. 1" Sony rx vi will probably cost the same.

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2017, 07:35:12 PM »
Canon will probably short change the camera on tech common in most other brands, such as 4K video. Canon market segmentation in recent years has reduced their cameras' values relative to the competition. At $1300, I would hope Canon doesn't hold back tech because they are protecting their own higher end products. The new G1X III needs to come with all the bells and whistles to justify the price. I'm a long time Canon user and still have the venerable 5DII in my stable. But I could not justify $1300 for a point and shoot, even with an APS-C sensor, unless it included some groundbreaking technology.

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2017, 08:31:34 PM »
Canon is becoming delusional.  They priced the new 6Dmk2 at 2k and are having a hard time unloading them at that price because technologically the 6Dmk 2 lags Nikon D750 which is 4 years old. The new Nikon 850 comes in at the same  price point as the Canon 7D4 and it literally blows it out of the water. What is Canon thinking? For years they led the DSLR market now they are second best but still price their products like they are market leaders. Now they are asking 1,300 for a Power Shot camera with a cropped sensor. Expect steep price cuts  in both the 6D and the new power shot by Christmas  time.

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2017, 08:37:24 PM »
Canon is becoming delusional.  They priced the new 6Dmk2 at 2k and are having a hard time unloading them at that price because technologically the 6Dmk 2 lags Nikon D750 which is 4 years old. The new Nikon 850 comes in at the same  price point as the Canon 7D4 and it literally blows it out of the water. What is Canon thinking? For years they led the DSLR market now they are second best but still price their products like they are market leaders. Now they are asking 1,300 for a Power Shot camera with a cropped sensor. Expect steep price cuts  in both the 6D and the new power shot by Christmas  time.

Wow. People are still trying to figure out what to expect from the 7D3, and you're saying the 7D4 sucks already. Fascinating...

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2017, 08:52:32 PM »
Wow, $1,300. This thing might even have to shoot 1080p 30fps video to command that price :)
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2017, 10:01:12 PM »
It will fail at that price. I couldn't see Canon going beyond $1000 but even that would be expensive. Canon have been behind in this category for years (where they used to dominate).

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2017, 10:01:12 PM »

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2017, 10:19:56 PM »
I'm still hoping something was lost in translation regarding this price.  $1299 seems really out whack for how competitive Canon's pricing has been on other recent major releases (in comparison to what most people around seemed to expect vs. reality).  I dunno, maybe this thing is more than what we have been fed so far.  Time will tell but I'm hoping all this is wrong (No Offense CR) lol
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2017, 11:33:48 PM »
What makes the cases $500 and $100? A glowy apple logo on the back?

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2017, 11:51:36 PM »
What makes the cases $500 and $100? A glowy apple logo on the back?

Real Waterproof cases are usually VERY expensive.  Go look up what a waterproof case is for a 5D body or a 1DX body. 
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2017, 02:10:13 AM »
Nokishita Camera have published a first set of specifications:

https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/918692058780524550

- APS-C CMOS sensor (22.3 x 14.9 mm)
- Dual pixel CMOS AF
- Number of effective pixels: 24.2 millions (Total number of pixels: 25.8 millions)
- Lens: equivalent 24-72 mm f/2.8-5.6
- Video engine: DIGIC 7
- Video: Full HD 60p
- Continuous drive: Approximately 9 fps, about 7 fps with servo AF
- ISO: 100-25,600
- Minimum shooting distance (from the lens tip): 10 cm (W), 30 cm (T)
- EVF: 0.39 inch 2.36 million dots
- LCD screen: 3.0 inch 1.04 million dots vari-angle touch screen
- Built-in Wi-Fi · Bluetooth · NFC
- Battery: NB-13L
- Battery life: 200 pictures, 250 pictures in eco mode
- Storage types: SD / SDHC / SDXC
- Dimensions: 115.0 x 77.9 x 51.4 mm
- Weight: 375 g (body only), 399 g (including battery and SD card).

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2017, 03:26:41 AM »
Nokishita Camera have published a first set of specifications:

https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/918692058780524550

- APS-C CMOS sensor (22.3 x 14.9 mm)
- Dual pixel CMOS AF
- Number of effective pixels: 24.2 millions (Total number of pixels: 25.8 millions)
- Lens: equivalent 24-72 mm f/2.8-5.6
- Video engine: DIGIC 7
- Video: Full HD 60p
- Continuous drive: Approximately 9 fps, about 7 fps with servo AF
- ISO: 100-25,600
- Minimum shooting distance (from the lens tip): 10 cm (W), 30 cm (T)
- EVF: 0.39 inch 2.36 million dots
- LCD screen: 3.0 inch 1.04 million dots vari-angle touch screen
- Built-in Wi-Fi · Bluetooth · NFC
- Battery: NB-13L
- Battery life: 200 pictures, 250 pictures in eco mode
- Storage types: SD / SDHC / SDXC
- Dimensions: 115.0 x 77.9 x 51.4 mm
- Weight: 375 g (body only), 399 g (including battery and SD card).

That is pretty wild!
- NB-13L means the camera will be able to recharge through USB connection with my power bank.
- Most 3 inch screens have the Variangle touch screen instead of the Tilt on the M5.
- Dimensions mean the Mark III will have a smaller lens than the current Mark II and be more compact than the M5
- A wide angle APS-C lens 15-16mm @F2 is just what everybody wanted. Like the Fuji X-T1 with 14mm F2.8, 16mm F1.4 and 18mm F2. This camera just gives you that + IS.

I still don't get it why every body is complaining about the price. Yes it will be 1,2K$, But Fuji 14mm F2.8, 16mm, 18mm And Sony touit 12mm pushes all the alternatives in the 1000+ $ range as well.

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2017, 03:30:05 AM »
Nokishita Camera have published a first set of specifications:

- Dimensions: 115.0 x 77.9 x 51.4 mm
- Weight: 375 g (body only), 399 g (including battery and SD card).

The key fact is the size. They went for a much reduced size. That explains it. It is 150 grams lighter than the mark II Apparently they count that to compete with mirrorless one has to be small. Also the depth is 15 mm less. It is closer in size to the old G series: 50 grams and 11 mm more than G15. If you compare to M5 with the kit lens this is 160 grams lighter and 45 mm less deep. It is smaller than any EOS M with any lens.

Still the price of over a thousand seems excessive. Maybe they just try to get most in the beginning. This is to my knowledge the first compact with APS-C and zoom. Still is it better than G5 X? Though it is not much bigger either. Maybe for some the APS-C is good a reason to buy.

399 g. Apparently they had a target in the weight.

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2017, 03:30:05 AM »

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2017, 03:51:38 AM »
(...)
This is to my knowledge the first compact with APS-C and zoom. (...)

Leica X Vario was announced in June 2013. Its sensor is bigger than that of the PowerShot (APS-C with x1.5 crop factor vs x1.6) and its lens is a 18-46mm (equ. 28-70mm) f/3,5-6,4.

The Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III will be announced on Monday 16 October in Japan:

https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/918738200020918272

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III Camera & Accessory USD Pricing
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2017, 04:40:40 AM »
Leica X Vario was announced in June 2013. Its sensor is bigger than that of the PowerShot (APS-C with x1.5 crop factor vs x1.6) and its lens is a 18-46mm (equ. 28-70mm) f/3,5-6,4.
...and it cost $2,950 at the time.

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« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2017, 04:40:40 AM »