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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2017, 09:55:00 PM »
I wish it didn't stop down all the way to f/5.6.
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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2017, 09:55:00 PM »

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2017, 11:51:49 PM »
Lots of carping here.
The looks of the camera are similar to the rest of the family. Frankly, I like the look. We need more interesting looking cameras rather than less.

Slow lens? Maybe, but not too slow and what really matters is how sharp is it?
The camera is extremely compact for an APS-C camera and answers the complaints of so many who decry the lack of compactness on mirrorless cameras with ILC.

For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom.  In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.

Now we have an up to date sensor, an EVF and the promise of a decent lens.
This could serve to replace my 5dmkIIIs for a ton of my outdoor flash work. No more working at f11 or 13 just to get some balance in the bright desert sun I work in. No more dragging big lights to push fill out 15 to 20 feet. And no more fooling with the profound kludges of HSS or hypersync.
Oh yeah, no noisy flipping mirror.

Totally worth it for me.

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2017, 02:29:44 AM »
Thanks Canon, we all know that Digi7 too weak to handle 4k
let's wait 5 more years  :D

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2017, 07:18:40 AM »
For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom.  In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.

lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2017, 08:48:57 AM »
Someone sent me some videos of equipment shot on an iPhone in 4K. What a pain in the butt downloading it and up loading it to others. And the quality of it looked no better than anything else to me.

Don't you realize that shooting 4k on a 2mm sensor for display on a 4 inch screen is the wave of the future?!  Duh!
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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2017, 11:10:44 AM »
"It's so ugly."  Huh??

It quite sensibly uses the space over the lens to store the flash.  Thank goodness it doesn't have the "fake pentaprism" bulb on the top.  Fuji and Sony put their viewfinder too close to the lens mount to use this space, and Olympus "glue a square to a triangle" is just idiotic.

The grip actually makes sense.  Its almost like someone studied ergonomics.  News flash camera makers, when the buttons are on top the fingers don't curl around the front of the camera, they angle forward.  The major flaw I see here is the front control wheel (yay, it's continuous instead of recessed!) is too close to the grip.

AF assist lamp is on the left, where the fingers aren't.  Camera makers get this wrong all the time.

Flash it out of the way of the hot shoe.  I wonder if it's high enough to not be obscured by the fully-extended lens.  Hopefully. 

Threaded front of lens!  Yay!

Locking mode dial.  Nice.

Exposure comp dial is recessed.  So many cameras get this wrong.

Back is cramped.  Small camera, but really cramped.  Would have liked a levered drive ring under the mode dial.

Missing the image sensor plane mark.

Fully side-articulating LCD.  None of the tilt crap.

One hopes the tripod mount is center-mounted (wtf Fuji?) and that the card slot is side entered (probably not, probably just sockets under a door).

Look at those enormous microphone slots next to the viewfinder.

Speaker on the left...should be on the back.  The viewfinder is between the user and the microphone for playback.

Manual flash.  Literally pull it up to use.  Interesting choice.  Saves on pointlessly spring loaded flashes I suppose, but I guess I still want one.




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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2017, 11:46:14 AM »
"It's so ugly."  Huh??

It quite sensibly uses the space over the lens to store the flash.  Thank goodness it doesn't have the "fake pentaprism" bulb on the top.  Fuji and Sony put their viewfinder too close to the lens mount to use this space, and Olympus "glue a square to a triangle" is just idiotic.

The grip actually makes sense.  Its almost like someone studied ergonomics.  News flash camera makers, when the buttons are on top the fingers don't curl around the front of the camera, they angle forward.  The major flaw I see here is the front control wheel (yay, it's continuous instead of recessed!) is too close to the grip.

AF assist lamp is on the left, where the fingers aren't.  Camera makers get this wrong all the time.

Flash it out of the way of the hot shoe.  I wonder if it's high enough to not be obscured by the fully-extended lens.  Hopefully. 

Threaded front of lens!  Yay!

Locking mode dial.  Nice.

Exposure comp dial is recessed.  So many cameras get this wrong.

Back is cramped.  Small camera, but really cramped.  Would have liked a levered drive ring under the mode dial.

Missing the image sensor plane mark.

Fully side-articulating LCD.  None of the tilt crap.

One hopes the tripod mount is center-mounted (wtf Fuji?) and that the card slot is side entered (probably not, probably just sockets under a door).

Look at those enormous microphone slots next to the viewfinder.

Speaker on the left...should be on the back.  The viewfinder is between the user and the microphone for playback.

Manual flash.  Literally pull it up to use.  Interesting choice.  Saves on pointlessly spring loaded flashes I suppose, but I guess I still want one.

I agree with many of your points, esp the exp dial (on my Pen F it's my biggest gripe)

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2017, 11:46:14 AM »

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2017, 12:02:14 PM »
...I'm continually amazed at how many think they know the camera industry to know if canon made a good / bad / indifferent camera.

+1.

I'm also amazed at how many are so quick to declare a camera that they never intended to buy in the first place a failure, simply because it doesn't meet their own personal preferences.

This isn't the camera for me. So what? There are plenty of other options out there and I presume that Canon is not in the business of making cameras that it can't sell.

Exactly, as this is a fixed lens camera, it's not even like you are tied in from a lens/accessories perspective. A compact camera is a perfect purchase where you can try any manufacturer you like.

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #68 on: October 14, 2017, 12:12:26 PM »
"It's so ugly."  Huh??

It quite sensibly uses the space over the lens to store the flash.  Thank goodness it doesn't have the "fake pentaprism" bulb on the top.  Fuji and Sony put their viewfinder too close to the lens mount to use this space, and Olympus "glue a square to a triangle" is just idiotic.

The grip actually makes sense.  Its almost like someone studied ergonomics.  News flash camera makers, when the buttons are on top the fingers don't curl around the front of the camera, they angle forward.  The major flaw I see here is the front control wheel (yay, it's continuous instead of recessed!) is too close to the grip.

AF assist lamp is on the left, where the fingers aren't.  Camera makers get this wrong all the time.

Flash it out of the way of the hot shoe.  I wonder if it's high enough to not be obscured by the fully-extended lens.  Hopefully. 

Threaded front of lens!  Yay!

Locking mode dial.  Nice.

Exposure comp dial is recessed.  So many cameras get this wrong.

Back is cramped.  Small camera, but really cramped.  Would have liked a levered drive ring under the mode dial.

Missing the image sensor plane mark.

Fully side-articulating LCD.  None of the tilt crap.

One hopes the tripod mount is center-mounted (wtf Fuji?) and that the card slot is side entered (probably not, probably just sockets under a door).

Look at those enormous microphone slots next to the viewfinder.

Speaker on the left...should be on the back.  The viewfinder is between the user and the microphone for playback.

Manual flash.  Literally pull it up to use.  Interesting choice.  Saves on pointlessly spring loaded flashes I suppose, but I guess I still want one.

I agree with many of your points, esp the exp dial (on my Pen F it's my biggest gripe)

I agree as well, but damn, it's the ugliest camera I've seen in a long time  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #69 on: October 14, 2017, 01:15:04 PM »
I dont see why some find this "ugly".  It's not to your taste perhaps but Canon making a modern version of their classic A1 and F1 (which I still own 35 years later) is what this looks like to me.  I really like the body style and the camera specs overall.  I just get nauseous at the price tag at this moment.
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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #70 on: October 14, 2017, 02:01:23 PM »
I dont see why some find this "ugly".  It's not to your taste perhaps but Canon making a modern version of their classic A1 and F1 (which I still own 35 years later) is what this looks like to me.  I really like the body style and the camera specs overall.  I just get nauseous at the price tag at this moment.

If the camera is rugged and sealed than the price - still high - can be somehow justified.
Anyway - the price should have been the least concern: the higher it starts the faster it falls.

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #71 on: October 14, 2017, 02:45:56 PM »
I dont see why some find this "ugly".  It's not to your taste perhaps but Canon making a modern version of their classic A1 and F1 (which I still own 35 years later) is what this looks like to me.  I really like the body style and the camera specs overall.  I just get nauseous at the price tag at this moment.

I find the entire "retro styling" design stuff totally absurd. One of the reasons other than price and no FF, that i totally ignore Fujifilm gear.

Why on earth should a digital camera in 2017 look like some mechanical camera from 50 years ago? The entire user interface that made sense back in the steampunk mech & film days and could not be implemented better back then - like mono-functional dials for shutter time, aperture rings, exposure comp, stop-down key etc. - has been replaced with way superior possibilities. Freely assignable, multi-functional dials, wheels, controllers, joysticks, buttons plus a large touchscreen LCD and clear menu system [Canon! not Sony!].

I would like to get a camera that is "100% solid state inside" with a user interface befitting the 21st century.

For example, instead of stupid "dumb" buttons/wheels and stupid shoulder LCDs that I never ever look at I'd rather like multi-functional dials with context-sensitive display, e.g. like this:


For body styling I really liked the Panasonic Lumix L1 back in 2006. Something along those lines, but slimmer, with FF sensor inside, a fully articulated LCD in back, a well-chosen Canon EF-X mount up front and a built in pop-up EVF [like Sony RX1R II and some other RX cameras] would be totally my camera.

Also, I only buy cameras in all black, preferably matte-black. Even in the analog manual days I did not like silber+black cameras and got me a Minolta XD-7 in chrome black instead. Not to speak of brown, white or hello-kitty-pink deviations from hell. 

Of course looks are personal preference and YMMV.  :)

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2017, 03:01:21 PM »
It is October 2017 and one will have a hard time finding a new TV on sale with 1080p resolution.

While 4k prices have certainly come down, this statement is just not true.

For me, it's more like... it's October 2017, and there still isn't enough 4k content that I'm interested in watching to make a 4k TV upgrade worthwhile.  I have fiber to my home with available 4k, yet the only content is some sports stuff that I have no interest in, and House of Cards if I'm willing to pay more money each year.

Well, its been a while I saw a large screen on sale with 1080p. In any event, look me in the eye and tell me that you would consider buying a 1080p TV if you were buying a new TV today. As for the content - well this is why having a 4K camera is important for me, especially if I'm planning to take it along for travel. This is how you will CREATE the content for the new 4K screen. Also, quite a number of new movies are coming out in 4K discs these days.  1080p was fine but seriously - this is the past and not worth the investment at the moment. Just my opinion, of course.

I bought a tv a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't 4K, because I wanted a cheap option and there is essentially no 4K content available at present in the UK even now. No point spending more for something I'm not able to use. And shopping around, plenty of lower res tvs are still on sale, even "HD ready", which I think means 720p? Not everyone wants or needs the highest spec devices, or can even tell the difference.

And how many people buying a small compact camera are creating, or wanting to create 4K content - and how many are actually going to use their tv to enjoy it? I'd bet they are a tiny minority.
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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2017, 03:01:21 PM »

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2017, 03:37:12 PM »
For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom.  In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.

lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?

I am assuming it is a leaf shutter as a FP shutter is needed for interchangeable lenses. They are bulkier, noisier and have limited sync so the leaf shutter would be the inexpensive way to implement a shutter.
The maximum sync would be the maximum speed of the shutter. I don't know what that amy be but as the max sync /shutter speed on the x-100F is 1/2000 sec I would bet on that.


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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2017, 05:17:57 PM »
For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom.  In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.

lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?

I am assuming it is a leaf shutter as a FP shutter is needed for interchangeable lenses. They are bulkier, noisier and have limited sync so the leaf shutter would be the inexpensive way to implement a shutter.
The maximum sync would be the maximum speed of the shutter. I don't know what that amy be but as the max sync /shutter speed on the x-100F is 1/2000 sec I would bet on that.

One needed FP shutter with film. In digicameras one could put a leaf shutter in every lens instead if one started from scratch.

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Re: Images & Specifications For the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark III
« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2017, 05:17:57 PM »