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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2017, 07:02:20 PM »
WANT IT!

Since moving to FF I've really missed my old trusty APS-C 17-55 F2.8 which was my previous walk around lens.  I've got the 24-70 F2.8 II and while it takes fantastic shots I miss the IS at times (or it's better to say I miss shots without the IS!)

You might consider the 24-70 F4L IS. I haven't touched my 17-55 F2.8 IS in the two three years (time sure flies) since purchasing the 24-70 F4L IS. In fact, I'm gonna sell it to help fund either a new body or the 16-35 F4L IS. :)

Same here!

I also own both the 24-70 f/4 and until recently, the EFS17-55 f/2.8.  There's just no comparison.

The 17-55 was awesome... 10+ years ago.  But the autofocus is relatively slow (it hunts a little), it's a little noisy, there's a lot of chromatic aberration (to the degree where it's not always/easily correctible), it's not close to the sharpness of the 24-70, and the IS on the 24-70 noticeably superior.

Indeed, my experience as well on all points. Will be listing my 17-55 on eBay soon...

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2017, 07:02:20 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2017, 10:45:45 PM »

$3200.00 USD?


Anyone care to guess what this puppy is gonna cost?
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2017, 10:47:38 PM »

I love mine so much, even if I won the lotto, I don't think I would upgrade.  OTOH, if this had huge improvements that were significant, I might consider.  Emphasis on HUGE!



USD1,950.00  in US market.

Anyone care to guess what this puppy is gonna cost?

The non IS version was $2,300 new, I doubt a new IS version would be less than that upon release...

My 24-70 f2.8 II is excellent, I don't know if I could justify spending on a new lens yet.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2017, 06:05:46 AM »
I rented the 24-70/2.8 II and was somewhat dissapointed. But perhaps my expectations have been too high, because I am used to the pretty nice 16-35/4 IS. So I think, a new 24-70/2.8 IS should not be above 2k€ and optically better than the 16-35/4 IS. Guess this is improbable.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2017, 06:13:28 AM »
I am most intrigued by the bit of the rumor that the new lens will have better IQ.  Forgetting IS for a second, but Canon is working on a 24-70 f/2.8 lens with better IQ than the current 24-70 II, which is already impressive.   So, the "prime-like" zoom might even get better.  Excellent.

As for IS, something that can do more is always appealing over something that can do less.  The first question is do we sacrifice anything (size, weight, IQ?  Surely money)?  The second question is how often would we use that extra feature.  IS can be very useful, but I do find myself shooting off a tripod or at least 1/125 more an more. 

So, I will probably be more interested in this lens primarily if it really does have better IQ than the current 24-70 II, and secondarily for IS.

That said, I am a happy user of the 24-70 II.  It is my most used, do everything lens.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2017, 06:15:14 AM »
I rented the 24-70/2.8 II and was somewhat dissapointed. But perhaps my expectations have been too high, because I am used to the pretty nice 16-35/4 IS. So I think, a new 24-70/2.8 IS should not be above 2k€ and optically better than the 16-35/4 IS. Guess this is improbable.

I own both.  I actually favor the IQ out of the 24-70 II over the 16-35 f/4 IS.  Not by much, but I do favor it.  So, you may have got a bad copy. 

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2017, 06:19:44 AM »
It is very likely that the lens you have rented had an issue or was not AFMA tuned to your camera.
 at 24mm, F4 24-70 is sharper in the centre and mid frame.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=787&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=949&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0


I rented the 24-70/2.8 II and was somewhat dissapointed. But perhaps my expectations have been too high, because I am used to the pretty nice 16-35/4 IS. So I think, a new 24-70/2.8 IS should not be above 2k€ and optically better than the 16-35/4 IS. Guess this is improbable.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2017, 06:19:44 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2017, 07:19:10 AM »
I rented the 24-70/2.8 II and was somewhat dissapointed. But perhaps my expectations have been too high, because I am used to the pretty nice 16-35/4 IS. So I think, a new 24-70/2.8 IS should not be above 2k€ and optically better than the 16-35/4 IS. Guess this is improbable.

I own both.  I actually favor the IQ out of the 24-70 II over the 16-35 f/4 IS.  Not by much, but I do favor it.  So, you may have got a bad copy.


Maybe the rented lens was decentered a bit. Anyway, the 16-35/4 is a bargain.  :)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2017, 09:13:21 AM »
The current 24-70 2.8 L II is almost perfect so it is interesting to hear that Canon wants to improve the optics and not just add IS.

The only weak spot in the design is 60-70mm at f/2.8-4. And it's not really that bad. From 24-60mm it really is as sharp as a good prime, the AF is fast, the rendering pleasant and neutral.

When I got a 5DSR I was pleased that it still performed flawlessly 24-60 so I can only assume Canon is going to pay attention to the long end.

The price will be interesting. We all assume they are going to charge a fortune but they have priced the new 85L IS quite reasonably (for an L lens at any rate) and I suspect that is down to Sigma's very highly regarded presence at 85mm. The situation is even more apparent at 24-70 with IS - both Sigma and Tamron produce well regarded lenses and (for Tamron the second one with IS, now much improved) - and both are priced very aggressively. So we might get a pleasant surprise - can't hurt to be optimistic!

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2017, 11:06:31 AM »
WANT IT!

Since moving to FF I've really missed my old trusty APS-C 17-55 F2.8 which was my previous walk around lens.  I've got the 24-70 F2.8 II and while it takes fantastic shots I miss the IS at times (or it's better to say I miss shots without the IS!)

You might consider the 24-70 F4L IS. I haven't touched my 17-55 F2.8 IS in the two three years (time sure flies) since purchasing the 24-70 F4L IS. In fact, I'm gonna sell it to help fund either a new body or the 16-35 F4L IS. :)

Same here!

I also own both the 24-70 f/4 and until recently, the EFS17-55 f/2.8.  There's just no comparison.

The 17-55 was awesome... 10+ years ago.  But the autofocus is relatively slow (it hunts a little), it's a little noisy, there's a lot of chromatic aberration (to the degree where it's not always/easily correctible), it's not close to the sharpness of the 24-70, and the IS on the 24-70 noticeably superior.

Oh absolutely.  I'm just looking at it through the lens of nostalgia as that was really the first lens that made me realize "Wow... glass really DOES make the difference!"  I sold my 17-55 about 4 years ago to help fund my upgrade to a 6D and the 16-35 f2.8.  I went with the wide angle first as I had a trip planned to DisneyWorld and wanted to video the fireworks.  Getting the 24-70 f2.8 a year later once I had recharged the bank accounts.

The 24-70 is absolutely superior and I really don't mind the lack of IS so much as I wish it was as light as the 17-55!

I've also picked up the 16-35 f4 IS last year.  Still deciding if I like it better than the F2.8 for fireworks videoing/night work.  But the 24-70 has become my standard walk around lens now.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2017, 12:29:44 PM »
I don't own a 24-70/2.8 II, but by all accounts, the IQ is outstanding ... so pretty ambitious of Canon to aim for improvements. I hope they succeed better than they did with the 24-105/4L II!

Nevertheless, I'd be satisfied with a 24-70/2.8L IS that just matches the 2.8 II's IQ. However it performs, I expect a launch price of US $2,400-$2,500. I would wait until the price drops to $2,000.

But give me a 24-70/2.8L IS and an AHSanford 50mm Special, and I'd be done.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2017, 12:37:38 PM »
Canon is surely taking its time on this lens, they better do something really good and not screw up like Nikon did (the VR version has less image quality than the non-VR).

I'm also surprised to see people praising the 24-70 F/4. I had that lens and it was definitely the worst lens I've ever owned (relative to the price):
- mediocre image quality
- very strong focus shift
- rubber focus ring started to come off despite the lens being quite new and well cared
- totally unworthy of the red ring (the 24-105 is way better value)

Hoping for a GOOD 24-70 2.8 IS!!

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2017, 12:42:30 PM »
But give me a 24-70/2.8L IS and an AHSanford 50mm Special, and I'd be done.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2017, 12:42:30 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2017, 01:40:12 PM »
Canon's failure to produce the last 24-70/2.8 with IS ultimately, through a long and winding road, led me to abandon the full frame system.  This saved me thousands of dollars and led me to a system that really works well for me.

5D + 24-105/4L IS became 7DII + 18-135 USM, with twice the range and three times the frame rate.  I traded the 35/1.4L for the Sigma 18-35/1.8. Nice to have at least a little zoom range.  The 85/1.8 was traded for the 50/1.8 STM.  The Sigma 15/2.8 fisheye became the Canon 8-15/4L fisheye.  I kept the 70-200/2.8L IS II which I mostly used on crop anyway.  For almost nothing, I also added the 10-18STM and 55-250STM.

Had the 24-70/2.8 been an IS, I would have probably bought the 5D III or IV to replace my 5D and the 24-70/2.8 IS would have replaced the 35/1.4, 85/1.8 and 24-105.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2017, 01:46:35 PM »
My 24-70 2.8 MkII was the most used lens for the 3 years I owned it (fell into the ocean and not usable anymore).

Ever since, I have been watching the price and it goes up and down but will replace it. Do not miss IS one bit. Image is sharp, colorful and crisp. Not sure if it could get too much better.  I will not be waiting for the new version.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS Still in Testing [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2017, 01:46:35 PM »