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Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« on: November 11, 2017, 10:46:09 AM »
Every so often we get a mention of a new 135mm lens. The latest 135mm lens announced turned out be the TS-E 135mm f/4L, and I think there may have been some incorrect assumptions as to what the “135mm” lens was going to be, and we were probably guilty of that. I think most people expected an update to the EF 135mm f/2L.

We’re now being told by an anonymous source that another 135mm portrait lens is scheduled to be announced in the first half of 2018 and that it will have IS.

We’re still trying to confirm what two new lenses Canon will be announcing in the first quarter of 2018.

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Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« on: November 11, 2017, 10:46:09 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 10:54:58 AM »
It will have a very tough stand against the 70-200 f2.8 mkII, especially if they are priced similarly.

It has to be lightweight, feeling like a feather attached to the body.
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 11:16:17 AM »
It will have a very tough stand against the 70-200 f2.8 mkII, especially if they are priced similarly.

It has to be lightweight, feeling like a feather attached to the body.
Maybe.   Usually primes have better characteristics (sharpness, CA, Bokeh, etc) than zooms, although zooms can get close to prime country.  If this is in the league of the Sigma Art 135mm, with Canon AF, there will be quite a few who will covet this lens.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 11:20:05 AM »
It will have a very tough stand against the 70-200 f2.8 mkII, especially if they are priced similarly.

It has to be lightweight, feeling like a feather attached to the body.
Maybe.   Usually primes have better characteristics (sharpness, CA, Bokeh, etc) than zooms, although zooms can get close to prime country.  If this is in the league of the Sigma Art 135mm, with Canon AF, there will be quite a few who will covet this lens.

I've heard the 135 is already a superb lens, so they would have to do more than just give it IS to make it a new seller.
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 11:32:25 AM »
Maybe the new 135 will bring back soft focus.   :o
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 11:38:28 AM »
Cue people complaining it's not f/1.8 in 3, 2, 1...

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 11:39:23 AM »
It will have a very tough stand against the 70-200 f2.8 mkII, especially if they are priced similarly.

It has to be lightweight, feeling like a feather attached to the body.
Maybe.   Usually primes have better characteristics (sharpness, CA, Bokeh, etc) than zooms, although zooms can get close to prime country.  If this is in the league of the Sigma Art 135mm, with Canon AF, there will be quite a few who will covet this lens.

I've heard the 135 is already a superb lens, so they would have to do more than just give it IS to make it a new seller.

Too late... the Sigma 135 Art is superb....

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 11:39:23 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 11:54:26 AM »
It will have a very tough stand against the 70-200 f2.8 mkII, especially if they are priced similarly.

It has to be lightweight, feeling like a feather attached to the body.
Maybe.   Usually primes have better characteristics (sharpness, CA, Bokeh, etc) than zooms, although zooms can get close to prime country.  If this is in the league of the Sigma Art 135mm, with Canon AF, there will be quite a few who will covet this lens.

I've heard the 135 is already a superb lens, so they would have to do more than just give it IS to make it a new seller.

Too late... the Sigma 135 Art is superb....

Yes...I own one....and I own the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS , too.   Two separate uses in my world.  Both lenses are great....but the Sigma 135mm f/1.8 ART is amazing piece of glass. Just incredible.  ....but its a good time to be a photographer...the original Canon 135mm f/2 is amazingly priced and a great performer, too. Price/performance is perfect there. Now Canon could best them all with a state-of-the-art modern lens AND IS, which the Sigma does not have.  The Sigma is a tank....but it focuses super fast and really delivers...so it is worth the haul when I use it. Really love that lens.
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 11:58:20 AM »
I've heard the 135 is already a superb lens, so they would have to do more than just give it IS to make it a new seller.

For a high resolution shooter, it should be significantly sharper.  Consider the Sigma 135 f/1.8 Art for what is possible on that front in this day and age. 

That lens (to my eyes) at TDP shot wide open at f/1.8 looks as sharp as the 135L stopped down to f/4.  That's a staggering accomplishment.

LensTip goes even further.  The least sharp measurements anywhere in the frame of the 135 Art from f/1.8 to f/5.6 were sharper than the most sharp measurement anywhere in the frame at any aperture of the 135L.  (They compared a 21 MP 1Ds3 (135L) to a 22 MP 5D3 (135 Art), but it's the closest resolving sensor test I could find.)

And this is just at 21-22 MP.  Imagine the 5DS users out there.  DXO [throw up in my mouth sound] would have us believe the 135L is terrific at 22 MP but it is leaving money on the table on the 5DS:

5D3:  20 out maximum 22 in their pix mpix mp pixie stix whatevers
5DS:  30 out of 50

Now, of course, sharpness isn't everything.  But if Canon could get near Sigma's stratospheric resolving power and couple it with the 135L's dreamy bokeh and a 'take it to the bank' top shelf AF setup, that lens would be something folks would pay good money for.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 12:11:38 PM »
Cue people complaining it's not f/1.8 in 3, 2, 1...

Yes! I would complain!

Sigma & Sony have a f/1.8 with image stabilized equivalent.

Nikon has the NIKKOR 105mm with a f/1.4!
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 12:21:33 PM »
Cue people complaining it's not f/1.8 in 3, 2, 1...

Yes! I would complain!

Sigma & Sony have a f/1.8 with image stabilized equivalent.

Nikon has the NIKKOR 105mm with a f/1.4!

The Sigma is not stabilized.   And it is still 80% the weight of a 70-200 f/2.8 zoom!

IMHO, a 135 prime needs to be sharper/creamier/shorter/lighter than the 70-200 f/2.8 zoom that so many folks already own or it will be relegated to niche use status. ... which is kind of where the 135L has sat since the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II came out. 

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2017, 12:27:22 PM »

Too late... the Sigma 135 Art is superb....

Yes...I own one....and I own the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS , too.   Two separate uses in my world.  Both lenses are great....but the Sigma 135mm f/1.8 ART is amazing piece of glass. Just incredible.  ....but its a good time to be a photographer...the original Canon 135mm f/2 is amazingly priced and a great performer, too. Price/performance is perfect there. Now Canon could best them all with a state-of-the-art modern lens AND IS, which the Sigma does not have.  The Sigma is a tank....but it focuses super fast and really delivers...so it is worth the haul when I use it. Really love that lens.

One used to have the 70~200 F2.8L IS. Traded in when getting the 135 Art. Also have the Canon 300 F2.8L II. Shooting with a 5D IV, both lens excel.

An acquaintance of mine who was a press photographer using Canon gear when seeing a full res photo of mine with the 135 said "Holy S____, that's sharp". So is the Canon 300 (and 400 which I have rented once).

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2017, 12:38:45 PM »

Nikon has the NIKKOR 105mm with a f/1.4!

Back in the film days I had a Nikon FE with a Series E 105 2.8 lens.  I loved that lens.  I wish Canon had a modern 105 or thereabouts.  I'm racking my brain right now whether I should go with any of the new 85's or 135's for portraits.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 12:44:24 PM »

IMHO, a 135 prime needs to be sharper/creamier/shorter/lighter than the 70-200 f/2.8 zoom that so many folks already own or it will be relegated to niche use status. ... which is kind of where the 135L has sat since the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II came out. 

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS USM Coming First Half of 2018 [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2017, 12:44:57 PM »
Cue people complaining it's not f/1.8 in 3, 2, 1...

Yes! I would complain!

Sigma & Sony have a f/1.8 with image stabilized equivalent.

Nikon has the NIKKOR 105mm with a f/1.4!
I'd prefer the more compact size of a f/2.0 at this FL.
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