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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2017, 06:12:48 AM »
I wonder how you can patent illuminated buttons? There must be some fancy stuff going on in there - a miniature genetically engineered glow worm, perhaps?

German manufacturer Leica has a patent on illuminated controls of superresolution microscopes, prohibiting the competition to e.g. use illuminated keyboards (standard market components) or wheel controls... anything is possible in the F_____ up world of patent rights.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2017, 06:54:26 AM »
About time. Atleast something Nikon done right years ago (1, 2?), wish Canon would follow sooner.
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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2017, 07:38:06 AM »
I'd say this is 15 years over due.  Otoh, I can't recall not finding a button just because I couldn't  see it- Canon had them all placed exactly where they ought to be.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2017, 07:44:23 AM »
Have too hope they do it right with no internal light leakage to the sensor with high ISO and long exposures (minutes}. Of course ability to turn it off would negate this, but at night you would want it turned on.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2017, 08:31:44 AM »
What no one seems to commend on is that this seems to imply there is not going to be a titly flippy screen on the 6D mark 3..  this has me disappointed a little

wrong camera model. this is either a 5D or a 7D chassis.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2017, 01:23:09 PM »
What no one seems to commend on is that this seems to imply there is not going to be a titly flippy screen on the 6D mark 3..  this has me disappointed a little

My guess is the 6D3 will keep the tilty screen but won't have the illuminated buttons, they'll make the feature available on higher end models only (7D, 5D, 1D). That means that these cameras won't have a tilty screen either, unless Canon found a way to combine tilty screen and button illumination.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2017, 01:27:25 PM »
Those of us that do a lot of night photography know where the buttons are.
Knowing your camera is part of the fun.  :)
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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2017, 02:59:56 PM »
With a properly designed touch screen I'd expect (want), top plate excluded all those buttons to disappear to make room for a bigger screen. No need for backlight.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2017, 03:24:40 PM »
Those of us that do a lot of night photography know where the buttons are.
Knowing your camera is part of the fun.  :)

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2017, 04:42:51 PM »
What no one seems to commend on is that this seems to imply there is not going to be a titly flippy screen on the 6D mark 3..  this has me disappointed a little

My guess is the 6D3 will keep the tilty screen but won't have the illuminated buttons, they'll make the feature available on higher end models only (7D, 5D, 1D). That means that these cameras won't have a tilty screen either, unless Canon found a way to combine tilty screen and button illumination.
Dammit typo  I meant of course 7D mark 3, rather have the flippy then illuminated buttons

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2017, 05:22:10 PM »
It would be even nicer if they offered this as a hardware upgrade. This is long overdue, and not enough of a selling point in and of itself to upgrade from a 5D IV to a V. But I would be willing to pay a reasonable price for the upgrade.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2017, 10:15:04 PM »
I have never had an issue with this after 28 years with Canon dslrs. Now, any other mfg? Yeah, no one has the ergonomics and sensible layout that Canon has. Don't get me started on menus either.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2017, 11:07:03 PM »
Nice but a tilting LCD touch screen would be far more useful. Get with the program, Canon. The 7D3 had better match or exceed the features and performance of the awesome Nikon D500.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2017, 12:57:39 AM »
I wonder how you can patent illuminated buttons? There must be some fancy stuff going on in there - a miniature genetically engineered glow worm, perhaps?

German manufacturer Leica has a patent on illuminated controls of superresolution microscopes, prohibiting the competition to e.g. use illuminated keyboards (standard market components) or wheel controls... anything is possible in the F_____ up world of patent rights.

I highly doubt other manufacturers can't incorporate illuminated keyboards or controls on their products. They just have to be designed differently enough to not infringe on Leica's design.

Look at all the different mice, keyboards, motherboards, memory chips, batteries, cpu's, or a million other products that are similar, but with different patents held by many different companies and sold on the open market.

I don't see how that is messed up. A person or company that designs a product ought to have their intellectual property protected. This does not stifle the market. Instead, it breeds variety and competition and creativity. Allowing  somebody to pirate a design destroys those things. Does Leica manufacturer the controls? Does Leica have an exclusive license to all manufactured illuminated keyboards? I doubt it. Just look at all the hundreds of choices of tires for your car. Each choice is patented. Every design is a little different. Patents are held by dozens of different manufacturers for thousands of different designs.

It isn't that Leica owns all patents to all illuminated keyboards. It sounds more like the competition is lazy or unable to innovate.

Closer to home, just look at all your lens choices. That is made possible in large part due to patent protections.
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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2017, 01:03:14 AM »
Get with the program, Canon. The 7D3 had better match or exceed the features and performance of the awesome Nikon D500.

Or what? Gonna jump ship?  ::) ::) ::)

Something some folks are missing is that the patent is for the way Canon designs the hardware and implementation of the buttons. As such, the patent doesn't need to show which body they are on or even where they are on the body.

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Re: Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?
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