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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 08:04:32 AM »
So, for wildlife and sports photogs, the EVF is currently not the best solution, but for *everyone else* it's far better.

I took the A7RII out the other day on a portrait shoot, with a single lens, (FE 55mm 1.8 ), something I'd usually take the 5DSR and 24-70 2.8 II (and a bag of other lenses) to do.

Came away extraordinarily happy with the results.  The question is, do I really want to go back to a camera that doesn't have face detect focus?

The 5D MkIV and 1DX MkII and, no doubt, the 5DSR II and all cameras going forwards have face detect too.

As for enjoying the experience of going out with one camera and one lens, preferably a prime, of course you did! It wouldn't matter what body comparisons you are making most of the time we make ILC ownership worse than it should be because we carry so much junk 'just in case'. The trouble is all that junk often gets in the way of the simplicity of just getting in the groove and taking pictures.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 08:04:32 AM »

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2017, 09:44:03 AM »

EVF's tend to have issues with rapidly moving subjects like in sports photography.  If you are not shooting sports or fast moving objects, a EVF may very well be a good choice.  but --- It depends on the usage.  They are getting better but pro sports photographers will have a issue with the lag and smearing.

Some who do not shoot fast moving subjects will still pan a EVF because of a issue that they won't see.

I have used my a7r2 for my kid's soccer games - (not my first choice because its my work camera, but no other good AF options) and the EVF seems ok to me - but I'm not a sports shooter at all (its actually really difficult to keep up even though they're kids). I would assume the a9 would be better. The biggest issue I have with this setup is the tight zoom on my Sigma 100-400 which slows me down. But again its a work lens, I didn't buy it for kids sports.

re: EVF cameras, I use a Fuji xPro2 for street/travel photography and I cannot tell you how much I love everything about that camera. Sony and Fuji are making great EVF right now (and I started shooting way back when with a view camera - so I'm not quick to jump on technological gimmicks!)

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2017, 10:27:51 AM »
I would probably get one of these, if:

1. I was assured that it will not erase stars.
2. It has an 'AstroTracer' type feature.
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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2017, 10:37:53 AM »
I would probably get one of these, if:

1. I was assured that it will not erase stars.
2. It has an 'AstroTracer' type feature.

Not my field of photography, but FYI.

Star eating is over:

     https://petapixel.com/2017/11/14/sony-a7r-iii-star-eater-no/

No it's not: 

     https://petapixel.com/2017/11/21/sony-a7r-iii-eats-stars-new-report/

     https://www.dpreview.com/news/3195011528/analysis-the-sony-a7r-iii-is-still-a-star-eater

Caveat emptor, I guess.

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2017, 10:48:46 AM »
6D, 80D, 5D IV, Zeiss Milvus 100mm Makro, Sigma 180mm/2.8 macro, Canon 100mm macro, Canon 24mm/1.4, Sigma 35/1.4, Tokina 16-28, Canon 1.4X III TC, Canon 2X III TC, Rokinon 14mm 2.4, Sigma 135mm ART.

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2017, 11:46:40 AM »
 What is interesting is that though per DXO a7r3 high ISO performance is only slightly better than of a7r2 and basically should not be practically noticeable.
But in reality a7r3 better high ISO performance is much more pronounced visually  and noise pattern also looks more natural.
In addition to all a7r3 improvements over a7r2 this is very enticing.
Should be great  for high ISO low light shooting  combined with DXO Prime NR which for less blotchy noise pattern should give better results.
Here are several snapshots from DPR using low light scene and image size normalized to the lowest res camera in comparison.

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2017, 10:13:43 AM »
Even the best electronic viewfinders don't hold a candle to optical - no comparison.  Personally I know I won't consider switching until I can hardly tell the difference.

Could not disagree more.

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Re: DXO gives the A7R3 a 100
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2017, 10:13:43 AM »