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Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« on: December 22, 2017, 10:52:39 AM »


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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2017, 11:08:02 AM »
Great details. Very nice picture.

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 07:30:56 AM »
Love those color tones OlAf! great shot!

I've struggled with the kids shots lately, they can't seem to just look normal, so I thought I'd try something I haven't done before, try with the cat, and that was... well, more of the same :D

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 01:52:30 PM »
Love those color tones OlAf! great shot!

I've struggled with the kids shots lately, they can't seem to just look normal, so I thought I'd try something I haven't done before, try with the cat, and that was... well, more of the same :D
They must be allergic to the new lens  ;D

The cat looks pretty young, say around 6-9 months old. Didn't you used to have serve an older one, or was that Eldar?

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 02:12:03 PM »
Love those color tones OlAf! great shot!

I've struggled with the kids shots lately, they can't seem to just look normal, so I thought I'd try something I haven't done before, try with the cat, and that was... well, more of the same :D
They must be allergic to the new lens  ;D

The cat looks pretty young, say around 6-9 months old.  ;DDidn't you used to have serve an older one, or was that Eldar?

Well, I’d say you know your cats, she’s 7,5 months old ;D

That was Eldar yes, only cat we’ve had this. She has the exact behavior and personality as my daughter, uncanny at times ::)
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 03:02:11 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2018, 01:24:10 PM »
Love those color tones OlAf! great shot!

I've struggled with the kids shots lately, they can't seem to just look normal, so I thought I'd try something I haven't done before, try with the cat, and that was... well, more of the same :D
They must be allergic to the new lens  ;D

The cat looks pretty young, say around 6-9 months old.  ;DDidn't you used to have serve an older one, or was that Eldar?

Well, I’d say you know your cats, she’s 7,5 months old ;D

That was Eldar yes, only cat we’ve had this. She has the exact behavior and personality as my daughter, uncanny at times ::)

Thanks, I grew up with Cats so I have some sense of how they change in looks has they grow up. Ah right, apologies for mixing you up with Eldar.

You know how the saying goes: Dogs have owners, but Cats have staff. It's not far off the mark ;D

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2018, 01:24:10 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2018, 02:16:45 PM »
Love those color tones OlAf! great shot!

I've struggled with the kids shots lately, they can't seem to just look normal, so I thought I'd try something I haven't done before, try with the cat, and that was... well, more of the same :D
They must be allergic to the new lens  ;D

The cat looks pretty young, say around 6-9 months old.  ;DDidn't you used to have serve an older one, or was that Eldar?

Well, I’d say you know your cats, she’s 7,5 months old ;D

That was Eldar yes, only cat we’ve had this. She has the exact behavior and personality as my daughter, uncanny at times ::)

Thanks, I grew up with Cats so I have some sense of how they change in looks has they grow up. Ah right, apologies for mixing you up with Eldar.

You know how the saying goes: Dogs have owners, but Cats have staff. It's not far off the mark ;D

Haha! Spot on ;D I have a huge issue with authorities so I can really relate to cats that stare me down and knocks a glass off the table while they don’t even care a little bit, haha.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 07:38:23 PM »
Now if only Canon would get on the ball to produce a 50mm L that can capture a toddler in action...


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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 02:56:09 AM »
Now if only Canon would get on the ball to produce a 50mm L that can capture a toddler in action...

Great shot! And Amen to that  ;D a 50 f1.2 L IS that sits between the 35 L II and the 85 IS in IQ would be nice :P
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 07:31:19 AM »
Really nice lens, this.

But I need to get a more powerful battery powered flash so I can use a larger aperture. This was a Yongnuo YN685 at roughly full power in an Elinchrom Rotalux 70cm deep octa just out of frame on the left and I had to stop down to f/2.8 to get X sync speed. HSS kills light output.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 07:50:25 AM »
Really nice lens, this.

But I need to get a more powerful battery powered flash so I can use a larger aperture. This was a Yongnuo YN685 at roughly full power in an Elinchrom Rotalux 70cm deep octa just out of frame on the left and I had to stop down to f/2.8 to get X sync speed. HSS kills light output.

How about an AD600?
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 08:09:40 AM »
Really nice lens, this.

But I need to get a more powerful battery powered flash so I can use a larger aperture. This was a Yongnuo YN685 at roughly full power in an Elinchrom Rotalux 70cm deep octa just out of frame on the left and I had to stop down to f/2.8 to get X sync speed. HSS kills light output.

How about an AD600?

It's been close. Real close, me buying an AD600.

I just don't think I could get it to balance well on top of a Manfrotto 5001b (which is the largest stand I've been able to fit in carry-on luggage). So I've contemplated getting a Profoto B2 but then I'd need either two sets of modifiers or a really bulky adapter. The Elinchrom Quadra or ELB400 seem a better option then, but if I am to live without TTL I want the ability to meter the light and the Sekonic 858 that seems to be the only one that can measure HSS and HS flash adds a significant overhead to the price...

Ask again in half a year and I might have a solution. But until then... I'll stop down a stop or add a second flash when really needed.
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 08:09:40 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 10:31:32 AM »
Really nice lens, this.

But I need to get a more powerful battery powered flash so I can use a larger aperture. This was a Yongnuo YN685 at roughly full power in an Elinchrom Rotalux 70cm deep octa just out of frame on the left and I had to stop down to f/2.8 to get X sync speed. HSS kills light output.

How about an AD600?

It's been close. Real close, me buying an AD600.

I just don't think I could get it to balance well on top of a Manfrotto 5001b (which is the largest stand I've been able to fit in carry-on luggage). So I've contemplated getting a Profoto B2 but then I'd need either two sets of modifiers or a really bulky adapter. The Elinchrom Quadra or ELB400 seem a better option then, but if I am to live without TTL I want the ability to meter the light and the Sekonic 858 that seems to be the only one that can measure HSS and HS flash adds a significant overhead to the price...

Ask again in half a year and I might have a solution. But until then... I'll stop down a stop or add a second flash when really needed.

Yeah I can see the issue when traveling...

But you don’t need a meter  :D I bought one once and it was just in the way..
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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2018, 05:08:13 PM »
If you're having trouble balancing wide aperture with sync speed, and can't/don't want to use HSS, get some ND filters. A 2- or 3-stop ND is usually enough to get you to regular sync speed and won't impact the base optical quality of a lens to any noticeable degree. (Assuming you use a single high-quality filter, of course, and not a cheap one or try to stack multiple NDs.)

If getting more power out of your lights is the primary concern, try playing with the orientation and zoom settings of your flashes. The difference in light you get out of a flash zoomed to 24mm and zoomed to 105mm is usually about a stop and a quarter in the center; to illuminate a whole person like that shot above, you can use the flash bare (again saving light compared to shooting through any modifier) and rotate the head so it's vertical. Most 'large' flashguns (580/600ex size or bigger) will easily illuminate a 6' person when positioned vertically and zoomed to 85mm or so. If you want to illuminate a whole person as well as part of the scene all from one direction, it can be cheaper to simply place two speedlights together (literally tape them, if you need to be quick) to double both your light output and coverage, rather than buying and transporting a larger head&pack system or other studio flash. Having used the currently-trendy Godox lights a fair bit over the last year, I don't find they're really any better than slapping two speedlights together; slightly more convenient in being one single package, but also less versatile and bulkier to carry, and the max light output is around that of two speedlights. The Godox lights are nice but if I were shooting in a cold snowy field in the evening like that, I know I'd rather have a couple of taped speedlights I can set up and tear down in half the time, and can sit on a lighter stand, while giving the same end result.

All that said, that shot looks great at f/2.8. The depth of field is just right, to me. If anything, if I were doing it, I'd be more likely to do down further to f/4 and use HSS specifically to increase the ambient-flash contrast by another stop, rather than either opening up the aperture or trying to get more light in the scene. Either way, it's a brilliant shot; I wouldn't say moving up to a bigger light source or opening up the aperture more would improve it. As tempting as it can be to always shoot these fast primes at their biggest apertures, sometimes stopping down just plain looks better!

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Re: Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2018, 05:08:13 PM »