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BillB

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2018, 01:48:59 PM »
Something like a 45mm or 50mm prime would pair up very nicely with either the 22mm prime or the 11-22 zoom. 

So Canon might finally come up with a 50mm F2.0 IS!  -- except that it would be EF-M.  Of course, it would most likely be STM anyway, so that wouldn't be any good even if it was an EF.  :) :)

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2018, 01:48:59 PM »

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2018, 01:49:16 PM »
I would like to see a 85 f2
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2018, 01:54:24 PM »
Reminder that the best-selling, by far, prime lenses for most mirrorless systems are pancakes. People should shelve their ideas for fast telephotos (or tele-equivalent) with IS. Something along the lines of a simple 35mm f/2 (or slower) is what the smart money bets on.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 02:04:13 PM »
Please complete the trinity they started with the 22.

53mm
85mm

Plus an 15mm and i can move to the M5.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2018, 02:18:25 PM »

The 18-55 was discontinued, but that size of kit lens is unpopular now (people want compact lenses) so the 15-45 and the 18-150 are perfectly reasonable for their target audiences.

Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality (ie it won't be a fixed aperture zoom) or perhaps just a replacement for the 15-45 with, maybe, a little more speed on the long end.

When the original M came out I bought the kit with the 18-55 but I barely used it and it's been sitting on a shelf collecting dust for years.

I have a 1Dx Mark II and a G7x. I recently went on vacation and I wanted something in between those to take with me. I figured since I already have an EF-M 18-55 I might as well just get the M6 body only and slap the 18-55 on it.

I absolutely loved it and didn't have any complaints with the size of the lens. My biggest issue with the EF-M lenses is their variable aperture and generally being too slow on the long end. If there was something with more reach than my 18-55 and was either fixed or faster, I'd be all over it and I wouldn't really care about the physical size of the lens. For the most part anyway; I did take some shots with the EF adapter and 24-70 f/2.8 and that sort of bulk really starts to detract from the size advantage gained from a body like the M6 in the first place.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 02:49:11 PM »
I'm going to guess it'll be a 50mm prime with IS.  Probably f/2, but maybe f/2.8 to keep the size down. 

But...it could also be the recently-patented 9.5mm f/4 lens.

I doubt 50 mm as Canon has the EF 50 mm f/1.8 which works nicely with EOS M. About 30 mm Normal would be nice with a fast aperture.

+1 on the 30mm! I am spoiled with fast primes on my FF kit, and therefore have a hard time finding any joy in using slow EF-M zoom lenses. The 22mm see some use, but that is pretty much it. I am hoping for a small preferably pancake 30-35mm lens with an aperture faster than f2.8.

I realize that the EF-M 28mm f3.5 macro makes it unlikely that they release a 30mm lens now, but fingers crossed. A fast 50mm seems more realistic.

I am pleased with the sharpness of my EF-M lenses, especially the 22mm and the 11-22. However, I am always a bit underwhelmed when I see the pictures made with these lenses. They lack in terms of color, clarity and contrast. I hope Canon will release some reasonably sized EF-M lenses with L-class quality in the near future.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 04:26:00 PM »
Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality

I could see a 15-85 variable aperture, similar in size to the 18-150, being a popular lens for the M series.

A 15-85 f/2.8-4 would be even nicer! Combined with a 55mm f/1.8, it might just be enough to persuade me to part with my Fuji system. Now that the EOS M5 has dropped a bit in price here in the UK, it might be very tempting... how does it perform with the EF-EOS M Mount Adapter?
Canon sold M6 with 18-150mm lens kit for throwaway price during holiday sale. Kicking myself for not jumping on that deal. My Sigma 17-50mm lens with cheap SL2 along with little FF itch complicates whole decision making for me.  :-\



 
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 04:26:00 PM »

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 05:30:26 PM »
Since in my wildest dreams I would not have guessed that the second M prime offered would be an f/3.5, I shall refrain from prognostication. I'll just hope for an EF-M 32 f/1.8 IS and a EF-M 15-45 f/4.0 IS. I am more concerned with quality than I am with size. Sadly, I know I am in the minority on this...

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2018, 05:38:40 PM »
I'm hoping for a 30-35mm f/2 prime and a higher quality standard zoom, but doubt we will get both - maybe the first one? 

I think I'd like to see a fixed aperture (f/4)? std zoom in the 15-55 range, but that would be a rather large lens, defeating the main advantage of the M series.  The current 15-45 is very compact, but pretty underwhelming optically. 


As there are already 22/2.0 and 28/3.5 available, the new 35/whatever would make this focal length range even more crowded. So my guess is rather for 40-50 mm region. Probably native pancake 40/2.8 or 40/2.0 or something like 50/1.8.

The 28/3.5 is a nice lens, but slow.  f/3.5 is fine for Macro work, but not not for low light shallow DOF purposes.  I hope Canon agrees and gives us a 30/2 STM.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2018, 06:12:03 PM »
my vote is something faster than f2 in range of 40-90.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2018, 06:27:03 PM »
I'm hoping we finally get one of the lenses I've been waiting for, essentially clones of Fuji's 35/2 or 50/2. Compact and reasonably fast, good at f/2, great at f/2.8. Like big brothers to the current 22/2. Any one of those would be an instant buy from me.

But I've learned to manage my expectations when it comes to the M line ... so my guess is, we'll get a fisheye  ???
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2018, 07:14:21 PM »
Probably native pancake 40/2.8 or 40/2.0 or something like 50/1.8.

wouldn't be a pancake. it's a pancake in EF because the mount registration distance is 44mm.
Can you explain please? I am not a physicist whatever, but if what you say is true, then how it comes that pancake EF-S 24/2.8 would exist. EF-S mount has the same flange distance as EF. Furthermore Fuji X line has pancake at 27 mm, which is quite more than 17.7 mm flange distance.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2018, 07:14:43 PM »
I would like to see a 85 f2

With IS of course.  Sounds good to me as well.    :)

And use a filter size (eg 55mm) that has commonality with some of the other ef-m lenses, please.

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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2018, 07:14:43 PM »

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2018, 07:31:24 PM »
And use a filter size (eg 55mm) that has commonality with some of the other ef-m lenses, please.

Any type of consistency in filter sizes would be a great improvement.  The current EF-M lenses have filter sizes all over the map.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 08:07:51 PM »
I am so keen on some decent EF-M glass. I bought the M5 because I wanted a lighter camera than my 5Ds and 5DIV for shots of my kids at the playground. I liked that it can work with my existing EF lenses, but then most of my lenses are L glass, so I didn't end up saving as much weight as I would have liked.

I have the EF-M 22mm, 11-22mm (both great, but wider than I like for what I use the M5 for, apart from the occasional hiking shot) and the 15-45mm (not so great, although has been good for some recent videos).

I was actually thinking of selling the M5 because I'm not using it as much as I thought I would, and I kinda dislike stepping between the interface on the M5 and the 5Ds and 5DIV. But if there's something like a fast (f2 or wider) 50mm(ish) equivalent coming out, then I can see myself holding onto the M5 and using it much more. Especially if it's relatively small.

I had considered the EF 35mm f/2 IS, but it seems expensive for glass that will only be used on my M5 (I already have 35mm f/1.4L II, so it won't expand my FF kit).

Bottom line, it's the news I've been hoping to hear for awhile, but it all depends on focal length, max aperture and size (and, of course, performance).

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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 08:07:51 PM »