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AvTvM

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2018, 02:57:45 PM »
You can build a small system just slightly different:  EOS 200D (SL2) EF-S10-18 IS STM EF-S18-55 IS STM (or another one) EF-S24 2.8 STM. Then you can add the EF40 2.8 STM and/or the EF85 1.8 and/or the EF50 1.8 STM and/or the EF35mm 2.0 IS. All small, with decent IQ and affordable. My opinion. Not EOS M series but close.

Yes, one could. But i dont want no stinking low level mirrorslapper with dinky tunnel-vision viewfinder ... which is still a lot bulkier than a well-designed, hi-end APS_C mirrorless camera.

And i already got many of the lenses you suggest. The ones with STM AF drive [40/2.8, 50/1.8 STM] I sometimes use with adapter on my EOS M. Non-STM age-old design EF lenses like EF 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.0  do not work very well AF-wise when adapted to EOS M in my experience.

There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   

EF-M 70/2.0 IS STM or EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM ... bring it on, stupid Canon!

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2018, 02:57:45 PM »

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2018, 04:13:27 PM »
You can build a small system just slightly different:  EOS 200D (SL2) EF-S10-18 IS STM EF-S18-55 IS STM (or another one) EF-S24 2.8 STM. Then you can add the EF40 2.8 STM and/or the EF85 1.8 and/or the EF50 1.8 STM and/or the EF35mm 2.0 IS. All small, with decent IQ and affordable. My opinion. Not EOS M series but close.

Yes, one could. But i dont want no stinking low level mirrorslapper with dinky tunnel-vision viewfinder ... which is still a lot bulkier than a well-designed, hi-end APS_C mirrorless camera.

And i already got many of the lenses you suggest. The ones with STM AF drive [40/2.8, 50/1.8 STM] I sometimes use with adapter on my EOS M. Non-STM age-old design EF lenses like EF 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.0  do not work very well AF-wise when adapted to EOS M in my experience.

There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   

EF-M 70/2.0 IS STM or EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM ... bring it on, stupid Canon!

Is there any way you could modify your desires from Canon to not mimic Trumps tweets? Thanks
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2018, 04:22:03 PM »
You can build a small system just slightly different:  EOS 200D (SL2) EF-S10-18 IS STM EF-S18-55 IS STM (or another one) EF-S24 2.8 STM. Then you can add the EF40 2.8 STM and/or the EF85 1.8 and/or the EF50 1.8 STM and/or the EF35mm 2.0 IS. All small, with decent IQ and affordable. My opinion. Not EOS M series but close.

Yes, one could. But i dont want no stinking low level mirrorslapper with dinky tunnel-vision viewfinder ... which is still a lot bulkier than a well-designed, hi-end APS_C mirrorless camera.

And i already got many of the lenses you suggest. The ones with STM AF drive [40/2.8, 50/1.8 STM] I sometimes use with adapter on my EOS M. Non-STM age-old design EF lenses like EF 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.0  do not work very well AF-wise when adapted to EOS M in my experience.

There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   

EF-M 70/2.0 IS STM or EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM ... bring it on, stupid Canon!

Is there any way you could modify your desires from Canon to not mimic Trumps tweets? Thanks


You better not mess with him. He's a very stable genius with tremendous insights in the corporate world...

AvTvM

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2018, 05:47:16 PM »
Is there any way you could modify your desires from Canon to not mimic Trumps tweets? Thanks

negative. just love political incorrectness.  8)

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2018, 10:42:25 PM »
Is there any way you could modify your desires from Canon to not mimic Trumps tweets? Thanks

negative. just love political incorrectness.  8)

Well, you picked the most incorrect to emulate.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #80 on: January 20, 2018, 10:51:42 PM »
There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   
It's also incorrect, there is the 28mm f3.5.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2018, 12:03:56 AM »
There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   

It's also incorrect, there is the 28mm f3.5.

Ooh.  Burn.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2018, 12:03:56 AM »

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2018, 06:50:56 AM »
And i already got many of the lenses you suggest. The ones with STM AF drive [40/2.8, 50/1.8 STM] I sometimes use with adapter on my EOS M. Non-STM age-old design EF lenses like EF 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.0  do not work very well AF-wise when adapted to EOS M in my experience.

This was the case with the first generation M cameras, but the M5 and M6 handle these lenses just as well as the 80D does.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2018, 09:09:20 AM »
Prediction:

New EF-M lenses will be

24-70 f/4 IS STM

and

50mm f/1.4 IS STM

Both FF capable.
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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2018, 09:54:02 AM »
There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   
It's also incorrect, there is the 28mm f3.5.

thx for correction! Forget that Macro thing ...

does not really change lamentable situation however. Lots of wide-angle stuff and (compact, slow) zooms, but no normal and tele focal lengths of even moderate speed available.

Even that 28/3.5 macro .. why not an EF-M 60/3.5 IS STM Macro ... ? In a pinch i would have gotten that one as long as no EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM is available.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2018, 02:47:16 PM »
There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   
It's also incorrect, there is the 28mm f3.5.

thx for correction! Forget that Macro thing ...

does not really change lamentable situation however. Lots of wide-angle stuff and (compact, slow) zooms, but no normal and tele focal lengths of even moderate speed available.

Even that 28/3.5 macro .. why not an EF-M 60/3.5 IS STM Macro ... ? In a pinch i would have gotten that one as long as no EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM is available.

Well, a 28mm crop is equivalent to 44.8 FF, which is in the normal range as far as I am concerned.  Not very fast, but still normal.

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2018, 06:47:36 PM »
There is no denying that an ultra-compact, short portrait-tele is sorely missing in Canon's EF-M lens lineup. Enough choice for ultra-wideangle and wide-angle lenses and f/6.3 zooms, but no native lens above 22mm faster than f/5.6 ... it sucks!   
It's also incorrect, there is the 28mm f3.5.

thx for correction! Forget that Macro thing ...

does not really change lamentable situation however. Lots of wide-angle stuff and (compact, slow) zooms, but no normal and tele focal lengths of even moderate speed available.

Even that 28/3.5 macro .. why not an EF-M 60/3.5 IS STM Macro ... ? In a pinch i would have gotten that one as long as no EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM is available.

Well, a 28mm crop is equivalent to 44.8 FF, which is in the normal range as far as I am concerned.  Not very fast, but still normal.

FOV wise yes ... but it still does not replace the 135mm equivalent FOV i am after ;-)
 

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Re: New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]
« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2018, 06:47:36 PM »