May 22, 2018, 07:43:44 PM

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Nikon tends to introduce high end bodies with smaller, incremental changes.

Canon should follow this path, an have more frequent introductions of high end cameras
2 (7.7%)
Canon timing of introduces is just fine.
15 (57.7%)
Canon should hold out longer for some really big changes
4 (15.4%)
This poll is stupid, I regret reading it and will hate myself in the morning for answering it
5 (19.2%)

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RGF

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Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« on: January 19, 2018, 06:02:37 PM »
Of course I could be wrong about now frequently Nikon introduces new high products.

Canon and NIkon are in lock step on the 1Dx/D5 series.

Nikon has introduced the D800, D810, and D850 while Canon has introduced the 5D M3 and 5D M4

I think that Nikon has 1 more iteration of their high end cropped sensor camera.

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Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« on: January 19, 2018, 06:02:37 PM »

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 06:17:32 PM »
Nikon is herky-jerky with some lightning fast updates (sometimes due to problems), some mid-cycle refreshes (like the 's' version of the flagship gripped models), some more standard 3-4 year life cycles, and then the odd 'leave a market to die' approach (e.g. D300s .... .... .... .... D500).

But compare and contrast to Keith's timelines at NL (snapshots below), and you see a trend:

  • Canon is more of a creature of habit with regular / fairly predictable lifecycles, running slightly longer on the flagship 1D  / 5D stuff
  • Canon is throwing its weight around with a mad proliferation of new product lines, while Nikon continues to keep their portfolio fairly compact (unless you count their very expensive dalliance with the CX mount)

But other than that, the two companies aren't all that different as far as gameplan goes.  Compare both to Sony running riot with new releases on the E/FE mount cameras and it's night and day.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 06:21:17 PM »
Nikon has introduced the D800, D810, and D850 while Canon has introduced the 5D M3 and 5D M4

Don't forget the two 5DS models.  In general, you can apples to apples the 1DX and 6D lines to Nikon, but the in-between 'pro' / non-gripped high end FF segment, the two companies have two very different approaches to winning the market:  Canon offers speciaized gear for detail or throughput, while Nikon prefers good/better/best for their setup.

So it's hard to line up products into segments in the 5D4/5DS/D750/D850 world.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 12:30:54 AM »
As I said this is perception and I could be wrong.  Thanks for pointing out that I forgot the 5Ds/R and the 6D.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 04:13:38 AM »
As a Nikon shooter , they have a bad habit of fixing botched releases with a new model. Sb-910, d610, d810. The d5, d500, and d850 may have corrected this trend.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 11:35:53 AM »
As a Nikon shooter , they have a bad habit of fixing botched releases with a new model. Sb-910, d610, d810. The d5, d500, and d850 may have corrected this trend.

Canon botched the 1D Mark III and IMO since they have been much more conservative when introducing new products.  Not sure if this is good or bad, just an observation.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 01:57:31 PM »
Nikon is herky-jerky with some lightning fast updates (sometimes due to problems), some mid-cycle refreshes (like the 's' version of the flagship gripped models), some more standard 3-4 year life cycles, and then the odd 'leave a market to die' approach (e.g. D300s .... .... .... .... D500).

But compare and contrast to Keith's timelines at NL (snapshots below), and you see a trend:

  • Canon is more of a creature of habit with regular / fairly predictable lifecycles, running slightly longer on the flagship 1D  / 5D stuff
  • Canon is throwing its weight around with a mad proliferation of new product lines, while Nikon continues to keep their portfolio fairly compact (unless you count their very expensive dalliance with the CX mount)

But other than that, the two companies aren't all that different as far as gameplan goes.  Compare both to Sony running riot with new releases on the E/FE mount cameras and it's night and day.

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Re: Speed of introducing new high end cameras
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 01:57:31 PM »