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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 04:32:40 PM »
If CanonRumors dude things that it might not be titled a III, but rather a new name, that would lead one to believe that one of the following is true if it is indeed a 70-200:
- It's changing aperture
- Ditching IS (least likely)
- Going DO
or
- Changing mount

Those are the elements that would disallow a Mark III designation. Pretty radical stuff. I for one would welcome a larger aperture or a DO version, but would be disappointed if this indicated that the new full frame camera was employing a different mount system.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 04:32:40 PM »

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2018, 04:44:22 PM »
Please, not another 24-105 fiasco.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2018, 04:59:27 PM »
If CanonRumors dude things that it might not be titled a III, but rather a new name, that would lead one to believe that one of the following is true if it is indeed a 70-200:
- It's changing aperture
- Ditching IS (least likely)
- Going DO
or
- Changing mount

Those are the elements that would disallow a Mark III designation. Pretty radical stuff. I for one would welcome a larger aperture or a DO version, but would be disappointed if this indicated that the new full frame camera was employing a different mount system.

...or macro. Possibly a new focus motor type.
Servo zoom/focus, waterproof (submersible) or wider aperture. There are loads of things you could do that's warrant a different name.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2018, 05:02:02 PM »
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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2018, 05:04:27 PM »
Please, not another 24-105 fiasco.

That's an L lens, but it's a second-tier L lens fit for kitting.  The Mk III 70-200 is flagship professional instrument.

They will not put out a Mk III that does not clearly outperform its predecessor. 

I just think folks need to keep their feet on the ground for how sharp this lens could be.  They can't improve it that much in sharpness without taking to some stratospheric cost, so I'm assuming the big improvements will be in other areas -- weight, IS, AF performance with a teleconverter, MFD, stuff with the hood or tripod collar, etc.

Also, with the noted exception of the 24-105 L II, can you name me a recent better-than-ground-floor price point lens that did not deliver a strong improvement?  I'm hard pressed to think of one.  Other than that lens, Canon's been on a bit of a killing streak the last 5 years or so.  Over that time, we've seen the 35L II, the 85 f/1.4L IS, two 16-35 L lenses, etc. -- all very strong instruments.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2018, 05:16:45 PM »
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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2018, 05:42:53 PM »
Not that I'm in any rush to replace my version II, but I hope they don't move the zoom ring further from the camera body as seen on the Tamron G2 and the new Nikon.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2018, 05:42:53 PM »

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2018, 06:01:12 PM »
With a FF mirrorless on the horizon, maybe this will be the first lens made specifically for it. IMHO it would be ridiculous to make a mirrorless body with the same flange distance just for EF lenses. If EF lenses can function really well on a Sony, Canon should be able to make an adaptor that preserves all function and speed. Then start the conversion of their lens line up to mirrorless as current lenses come up for redesign.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2018, 06:10:33 PM »
How about, built-in teleconveter like the 200-400? :) :)  Either 1.4 or 2.0 would be really sweet.

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To what?  Besides, he's confirmed that it's EF.

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We’re not calling it an “EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III” for the time being, as a couple of our sources have hinted that there’s something “different” and “more” about this lens release. No one seems to want to let the cat out of the bag yet.

Something "different":  For the first time ever, an L lens will come bundled with a second L lens! 
Something "more":  And, it will be a 50mm 1.4 IS USM!

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2018, 06:12:08 PM »
Never going to happen, but 2.0 aperture would be great.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2018, 06:13:51 PM »
With a FF mirrorless on the horizon, maybe this will be the first lens made specifically for it.

Explosively unlikely.  Even if FF mirrorless body was coming and it was a thin flange design as you suggest (certainly plausible), you wouldn't first come out with a lens that does not showcase the size savings.  The opening lenses for a thin flange mirrorless platform would undoubtedly be small f/2.8 primes of modest FLs and a slow f/4 (or possibly variable aperture) standard zoom.  A 70-200 f/2.8 lens would be a 2nd or 3rd wave of lenses Canon would release.  It's a vital lens for photographers, don't get be wrong, but you'd just use a nearly identically sized EF mount 70-200 f/2.8L IS II on an adaptor until Canon deems us fit for a mirrorless-mount version.

IMHO it would be ridiculous to make a mirrorless body with the same flange distance just for EF lenses. If EF lenses can function really well on a Sony, Canon should be able to make an adaptor that preserves all function and speed. Then start the conversion of their lens line up to mirrorless as current lenses come up for redesign.

You are starting an entirely different topic here.  Just start another thread on this topic and you'll have 10 responses in an hour on this.  It's probably the #1 thing we debate here these days.

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2018, 06:18:13 PM »
Built in teleconverter like the 200-400????

That was the first thing that occurred to me, but if it is the case, I'd expect them to continue selling the version II alongside.

I'm out of ideas.  Any others?

What about an LCD distance scale like that cheaper lens released a year or two ago?
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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2018, 06:21:43 PM »
Maybe it will come with a real lens case?  That would rock the Canon world!

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2018, 06:21:43 PM »

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2018, 06:25:08 PM »
What about an LCD distance scale like that cheaper lens released a year or two ago?

You mean the 70-300II?  I bought one to attach to an old 60D and leave in the car, which is something I wouldn't be prepared to do with a 100-400LII.  I have never found a use for the distance LCD scale, and in my opinion, it's far inferior to the analog scale.

But that brings up another possibility:  what if it were a cheaper 70-200 IS/2.8?  nano USM, more plastic, no weather sealing, same IQ, same price as the f/4, not L.  Would that be interesting to anyone?

Of course, the Canon hood would probably cost $150 then :)

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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2018, 06:26:28 PM »
It has a new built in .5 converter that electronically slides in. It's built into the tripod mount. 70-200mm f1.8-2.8 IS
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Re: A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2018, 06:26:28 PM »