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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2018, 04:23:44 PM »
what is the 10 extra MM suppsoed to do. companies need to focus on  making lens sharper, smaller,  and better in low light and introduce ranges that arent around.

You realize that the demand for "smaller" conflicts with the demand for "better in low light".....

Also, the extra 10mm introduces a range that isn't around.......
Then comes the option of why bother making  something. I am just out of the loop, you guys made me realize the demand for 70-210 f/4 lenses.

With this one, it probably is 210mm..... not quite sure where I read it, but I think the 70-200F4 is really 185 or 190mm....
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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2018, 04:23:44 PM »

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2018, 04:40:09 PM »
Which begs to ask, what the price of a third party 70-200/4 with IS will be.  The Canon is at a perfect price point ($1k).  I don't think this will be a $500 lens, though if it were, that could be a spectacular alternative to consumer grade lenses.  So where does it fall... $700?    Is that enough of a price difference from the Canon?

My educated guess is: same price bracket as the EF 70-200mm f/4 non-IS. My bet is between $600 and $700. $500 is too low; $800 too high.

I was thinking $799 but I noticed in the leaked photos that it only has 1 VC mode and no focus limiter (or so it appears), so they probably are targeting more like $600-700.

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2018, 06:58:30 PM »
Seriously what is this crap. Why  even makes lens like this.  and what is the 10 extra MM suppsoed to do.  companies need to focus on  making lens sharper, smaller,  and better in low light and introduce ranges that arent around.

Seriously what is this crap. Why  even makes [sic] comment like this[?]

Maybe they think this is an area they can MAKE MONEY? Maybe the extra 10mm made the lens easier to design? Maybe you ought to stop trying to think about things, it's clearly too hard for you.
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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2018, 07:42:40 PM »
If it's priced anywhere near the OG 70-200L and gets the usual thumbs up from say Bryan and our man Dustin, I'm in.
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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2018, 08:13:00 PM »
70-210 reminds me of the original Vivitar 70-210 Series One lens of 1973 or so. This was the first lens that claimed to be computer designed to allow superior performance than the zooms of the time.

As for the actual FL at the long end, it seems that most lenses are quite  casual as to the accuracy of the rating.

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2018, 09:09:51 PM »
This is an interesting lens for me!   I would buy the 70-200 f4L is in a heartbeat, except that part of the reason I would want the IS would be for video and it's too dang loud.

If this Tamron can be as sharp as the Canon, come in below it's price, and have silent VC with good AF, I would be very very intrigued by it!

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2018, 09:58:08 PM »
This is an interesting lens for me!   I would buy the 70-200 f4L is in a heartbeat, except that part of the reason I would want the IS would be for video and it's too dang loud.

If this Tamron can be as sharp as the Canon, come in below it's price, and have silent VC with good AF, I would be very very intrigued by it!

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2018, 09:58:08 PM »

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2018, 10:26:13 PM »
This is an interesting lens for me!   I would buy the 70-200 f4L is in a heartbeat, except that part of the reason I would want the IS would be for video and it's too dang loud.

If this Tamron can be as sharp as the Canon, come in below it's price, and have silent VC with good AF, I would be very very intrigued by it!

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2018, 12:53:53 AM »
Seriously what is this crap. Why  even makes lens like this.  and what is the 10 extra MM suppsoed to do.  companies need to focus on  making lens sharper, smaller,  and better in low light and introduce ranges that arent around.

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2018, 01:30:08 AM »
B&H lists the following prices:

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM Lens: $599
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM Lens: $1,149
Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 Lens: $1,299
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens: $1,949

So the way I see it. It will sit below the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM in price for sure.
If we do the math... the Tamron F2.8 offers the same features as the Canon whilst being one third cheaper.
One third cheaper than the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM Lens is about $759... we'll see what happens.
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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2018, 03:40:45 AM »
My educated guess is: same price bracket as the EF 70-200mm f/4 non-IS. My bet is between $600 and $700. $500 is too low; $800 too high.

I was thinking $799 but I noticed in the leaked photos that it only has 1 VC mode and no focus limiter (or so it appears), so they probably are targeting more like $600-700.

Also remember that from the looks of it the tripod collar is going to be an optional accessory, as with the 100-400mm. Should drive the price down nicely.

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2018, 05:19:57 AM »
Tamron 15-30/2.8 and Pentax 15-30/2.8 almost identical.
Pentax need cheap zooms. New Pentax lens soon?

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2018, 07:21:55 AM »
This is an interesting lens for me!   I would buy the 70-200 f4L is in a heartbeat, except that part of the reason I would want the IS would be for video and it's too dang loud.

If this Tamron can be as sharp as the Canon, come in below it's price, and have silent VC with good AF, I would be very very intrigued by it!

It is a wonderful lens, one of the “must have” lenses..... a great combination of quality/price/size..... but you are right about the noise, the IS on the lens is about the loudest I have ever heard on any lens. Tamron has the opportunity here to come out with a better lens at a lower price. I hope it is compatible with the docking station..... that introduces the ability for firmware updates for future compatibility and if it has similar AFMA to the 150-600 G2, superior AFMA to Canon.

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2018, 07:21:55 AM »

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2018, 09:02:08 AM »
This is an interesting lens for me!   I would buy the 70-200 f4L is in a heartbeat, except that part of the reason I would want the IS would be for video and it's too dang loud.

If this Tamron can be as sharp as the Canon, come in below it's price, and have silent VC with good AF, I would be very very intrigued by it!

I own and often use the Tamron 15-30, 24-70 (G1), and 70-200 (G1) F2.8 lenses for video.  Picked them up over the Canon because of IS/VC, then added the 70-200 (G1) to match the others.

My biggest issue with Tamron lenses is lack of in-camera lens corrections, or non-functional lens corrections, specifically peripheral illumination correction.  The vignetting can be a problem with these lenses and is generally harder to fix with video (than shooting RAW and fixing in Lightroom/Photoshop).  If you're using for photos, these are great lenses.  If there was a reliable way to enable in-camera lens corrections, they would be great for video as well.

If Canon ever released a 24-70 F2.8 with IS, I would likely change everything over. 

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2018, 01:52:13 AM »
Generally speaking, on the 70-200 focal length, I prefer the f/2.8 despite the significant size/weight difference -- ironically not for the f/2.8, as I'll often stop down to f/4 anyways... but for the better/faster autofocus that a wider aperture affords.

There are many situations indoors when it's not as bright, and f/2.8 focuses noticeably more confidently than f/4, and for patio birding, if it's a bit overcast, f/2.8 makes a huge difference.

My biggest issue with Tamron lenses is lack of in-camera lens corrections, or non-functional lens corrections, specifically peripheral illumination correction.  The vignetting can be a problem with these lenses and is generally harder to fix with video (than shooting RAW and fixing in Lightroom/Photoshop). 

I've always wondered about this, but I barely ever record videos, so I've never taken the time to research it. 

The only video I've ever made on my 80D was of a heron "fishing" using a Sigma 150-600, the vignetting was, well, pretty much what you'd expect from an uncorrected telephoto (looks silly).  Is there any way to correct this "automatically" in post?

If Canon ever released a 24-70 F2.8 with IS, I would likely change everything over.

IIRC, the rumor is Canon is field testing two models of 24-70/2.8 IS :)  I would purchase that lens in a heartbeat too. 

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Re: Tamron to Announce 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2018, 01:52:13 AM »