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Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:38:08 PM »
Not to be outdone, Tokina plans to announce a Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF ahead of CP+. Canon shooters have been waiting a new 50mm for quite some time, I’m not sure this is what they were thinking.

You’re also going to have to wait a while to try it out, as it doesn’t look like it’s coming until September of 2018.

One neat design element of the lens, is it appears the focus ring will rotate in the direction that matches your Canon or Nikon camera.

Tokina Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF Specifications: (Google Translated)

  • Autofocus full frame lens
  • Mount: For Canon · For Nikon
  • Ring type ultrasonic motor
  • Dust and Weather Resistant
  • For the first time at Tokinar adopted electromagnetic iris system for Nikon
  • The direction of rotation of the focus ring is the same as that of a genuine lens for both Canon and Nikon
  • Scheduled release date: Summer 2018
  • Announcement expected on February 28
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Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:38:08 PM »

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 12:02:00 AM »
You’re also going to have to wait a while to try it out, as it doesn’t look like it’s coming until September of 2018.

It will still be released sooner then any new Canon version. Ive never owned a Tokina lens before, but im strangely excited for this announcement.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 12:55:41 AM »
Only interesting if it has image stabilization but that doesn't seem the case. And it looks like a larger lens with some retrofocus construction which would explain the physical length of the lens.

While still waiting on a Canon EF 50 / 1.4 or 1.8 IS USM with good close focus (1:4 or 0.25x at least) I have to admit that the Tamron 45mm seems to be not too unattractive.
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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 02:20:52 AM »
What is this, a Tokina with a modern design language and AF drive? It's great to be a lens buyer these days.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 02:47:17 AM »
I have had quite a few Tokina lenses and they were all great and they have very good customer service for 2 of my experiences.  8)
"Opera" to kinda follow Sigma's "ART" kinda line I suppose. I like that they are using that kind of terminology but I'm not sure if I'm feelin the "Opera" name though. Kinda makes me think boring old lady.   ;D
Maybe they were thinking "finer things"
Anyhow I would expect this lens to have an edge on the Sigma Art with better Bokeh.
But I estimate in a year and a half we will get a Canon 50mm 1.4 IS.  8) :o 8)

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 04:40:03 AM »
Nice to see someone is taking the focus ring direction seriously. I dare say it would be much more complicated to do the same for the zoom.  But wait, it could mean that it’s a focus-by-wire system which would be relatively easy to switch directions.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 05:11:55 AM »
Nice to see someone is taking the focus ring direction seriously. I dare say it would be much more complicated to do the same for the zoom.  But wait, it could mean that it’s a focus-by-wire system which would be relatively easy to switch directions.

I can't see how it would be more difficult to construct one clockwise and one counter clockwise focus/zoom helicoid than making different lens mounts for Nikon and Canon. Please tell me what would be so complicated with mirroring one part.
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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 05:11:55 AM »

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 08:01:13 AM »
Nice to see someone is taking the focus ring direction seriously. I dare say it would be much more complicated to do the same for the zoom.  But wait, it could mean that it’s a focus-by-wire system which would be relatively easy to switch directions.

I can't see how it would be more difficult to construct one clockwise and one counter clockwise focus/zoom helicoid than making different lens mounts for Nikon and Canon. Please tell me what would be so complicated with mirroring one part.

A zoom makes a whole bunch more parts to mirror.  There’s more than just one barrel moving back and forth in there. Probably a large part of the system would need to be mirrored.    The more parts are mirrored, the more re-setting up the fabrication line has to do.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 11:18:33 AM »
Tokina's president:  "My parents told me to dream big.  Of all the companies that make inconsistent Canon AF routines for large aperture glass, we want to be the best at it.  Suck it, Sigma and Tamron: we're going to be #1 in the #2 best AF on Canon business!"

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 11:24:21 AM »
"The direction of rotation of the focus ring is the same as that of a genuine lens for both Canon and Nikon"

[Groan.]  Shocked this made a bullet point list of the lens's virtues.  This is equal parts internet forum below-the-belt-dig at third party lens makers and some Yongnuo swamp creature rising from bog getting poor PR representation.

Nothing says "We're #1" better than 'their stuff isn't even legitimate!'   :o

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2018, 12:01:51 PM »
Might as well be Vivitar. The passing lane on this one is getting crowded.
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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 12:35:51 PM »
Who knows?  Tokina could start a new era here -- this could be their Sigma 35 Art.

I just don't trust third party AF for large aperture glass, and Canon seems to be allergic to manual focusing screens if the AF is lacking.

So the sexy optical pickle jars from Zeiss, Sigma, Samyang, etc. will have to wait for me.  I'm not touching those until I can reliably focus them handheld with the camera held up to my eye, and without focusing screens, that means waiting for FF mirrorless.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 12:46:36 PM »
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=24355

Seriously, I haven't given Tokina a thought in over 10 years and actually wondered if they were still in business. But maybe there is something going on at Kenko to take a look at, we shall see.
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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 12:46:36 PM »

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 12:59:47 PM »
I’ve owned two Tokina lenses, a 35mm macro and the 11-16mm (original). Both were excellent. I gave the 35 to my son but still have the zoom. I’d have no hesitation purchasing another one but i’m not in the market for a 50.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »
I just don't trust third party AF for large aperture glass, and Canon seems to be allergic to manual focusing screens if the AF is lacking.

So the sexy optical pickle jars from Zeiss, Sigma, Samyang, etc. will have to wait for me.  I'm not touching those until I can reliably focus them handheld with the camera held up to my eye, and without focusing screens, that means waiting for FF mirrorless.

You need to try out some Tamrons. They've elected to prioritise consistent AF accuracy, at the cost of some speed. (We're talking blink-of-an-eye speed, though.) Every Tamron I've used from their latest line—every single copy of every single model—has matched the Canon equivalents for focus accuracy.
Sigma's 24-35 f/2 and 20mm f/1.4 get the pass, too, though of course with wide-angles focus is pretty simple.

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Re: Tokina to Announce Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »