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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2018, 11:31:57 AM »
New silent mode can shoot with no shutter sound at all

Improvement of high brightness side gradation priority function

so it has an e-shutter for the first time in a canon camera.

"Improvement of high brightness side gradation priority function" that sounds like HTP improvements.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2018, 11:31:57 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2018, 11:50:43 AM »
Interestingly they use the LP-E12 i.e. the one on the cheaper cameras. There are third party batteries for that. I have three of those. That is a major factor in choosing a camera as Canon originals are not cheap and I could never go without a spare.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2018, 12:06:03 PM »
thinking about this camera, it really sounds like canon decided to make the choice camera for vlogging.

external mic, don't care about headphone jack, minimal controls and a front facing screen that you can still attach a mic on the hotshoe

if this camera fits in with the sub-$799 pricing, Canon in one shot probably put themselves back squarely into the vlogging conversation.  DPAF, Canon colors, fully articulating screen and 4K? there's nothing missing from that for even the fastidious of vloggers.  the mic jack could have been placed better, but that's a minor complaint really.

vloggers have been moving back to 1080p Canon cameras just for the color and DPAF, this should worry the panasonics of the world that their low end vlogging capable cameras like the GX85 are no longer safe.

this all goes out the door if it's MJPEG, or priced alot higher. or has a horrendous 4k crop.

But for now it's looking like a pretty good camera for that segment of the market that Canon for the most part has ignored.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2018, 12:31:36 PM »
Canon s aps-c mirrorless lineup is making me very eager to see a full frame offering if nothing else.  If I were looking for a crop camera I would consider one of the mirrorless as quite up to snuff.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2018, 12:42:14 PM »
thinking about this camera, it really sounds like canon decided to make the choice camera for vlogging.

external mic, don't care about headphone jack, minimal controls and a front facing screen that you can still attach a mic on the hotshoe

if this camera fits in with the sub-$799 pricing, Canon in one shot probably put themselves back squarely into the vlogging conversation.  DPAF, Canon colors, fully articulating screen and 4K? there's nothing missing from that for even the fastidious of vloggers.  the mic jack could have been placed better, but that's a minor complaint really.

vloggers have been moving back to 1080p Canon cameras just for the color and DPAF, this should worry the panasonics of the world that their low end vlogging capable cameras like the GX85 are no longer safe.

this all goes out the door if it's MJPEG, or priced alot higher. or has a horrendous 4k crop.

But for now it's looking like a pretty good camera for that segment of the market that Canon for the most part has ignored.

The last missing puzzle piece is time limit in 4K and reliability. Panasonic has produced reliable small large sensor cameras with 4K for years, but Sony has shown that they can't do it reliably, and that's why Canon stuck with MJPEG. Crossing my fingers in hopes that the DIGIC 8 and the new sensor can deal with heat.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2018, 12:46:02 PM »
thinking about this camera, it really sounds like canon decided to make the choice camera for vlogging.

external mic, don't care about headphone jack, minimal controls and a front facing screen that you can still attach a mic on the hotshoe

if this camera fits in with the sub-$799 pricing, Canon in one shot probably put themselves back squarely into the vlogging conversation.  DPAF, Canon colors, fully articulating screen and 4K? there's nothing missing from that for even the fastidious of vloggers.  the mic jack could have been placed better, but that's a minor complaint really.

vloggers have been moving back to 1080p Canon cameras just for the color and DPAF, this should worry the panasonics of the world that their low end vlogging capable cameras like the GX85 are no longer safe.

this all goes out the door if it's MJPEG, or priced alot higher. or has a horrendous 4k crop.

But for now it's looking like a pretty good camera for that segment of the market that Canon for the most part has ignored.

The last missing puzzle piece is time limit in 4K and reliability. Panasonic has produced reliable small large sensor cameras with 4K for years, but Sony has shown that they can't do it reliably, and that's why Canon stuck with MJPEG. Crossing my fingers in hopes that the DIGIC 8 and the new sensor can deal with heat.

true that.  I would assume that canon wouldn't put it in the camera if it overheats like a sony-made camera coffee warmer.

it could be a bad assumption, canon has done weird and whacky things to the EF-M lineup (i'm looking at YOU M3.. )


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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2018, 12:49:24 PM »
This with an EF-M 50mm lens could be my 85mm lens.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2018, 12:49:24 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2018, 12:52:06 PM »
One question: Is the ring around the shutter buttom a control dail?

It seems to me, that this is the one control dail on the camrea.
It could be that the control layout is not so enthusiast oriented. That's maybe what they mean, when the say between the M5 and the M100.

I'm still thrilled. This could be the first highter capable camera of Canon in a long time, that doesn't have som serious flaws.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2018, 12:53:59 PM »
it could be a bad assumption, canon has done weird and whacky things to the EF-M lineup (i'm looking at YOU M3.. )

I think the M3 and earlier M bodies can now be safely considered learning experiences for Canon. Some questionable decisions may have stemmed from internal politicking (I'm pretty sure they have had executive-level disagreements on whether this mirrorless thing is real and if it is, how quickly they should hop on the bandwagon). The new generation (M5, M6, M100, M50) seem to have a much more consistent, decisive drive behind them, which is also reflected by the change in naming convention.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2018, 01:09:31 PM »
I had hopes for this camera until I saw it shared this new sensor with the new T7.  I suspect the Dynamic range will be an issue.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2018, 01:22:22 PM »
This camera has some very impressive specs. It outclasses the EOS M5 and is going to cost less? Man...
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2018, 01:22:39 PM »
I had hopes for this camera until I saw it shared this new sensor with the new T7.  I suspect the Dynamic range will be an issue.

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yes because it's been an issue for the 80D,etc which also use a 24MP sensor.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2018, 01:23:24 PM »
This camera has some very impressive specs. It outclasses the EOS M5 and is going to cost less? Man...

for stills it's still no where close ergonomically to the M5 sans *maybe* the new raw format and AF improvements.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2018, 01:23:24 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2018, 01:39:09 PM »
Two things that will make me sell my Sony in a heartbeat.

Larger support for codecs and 120 fps for slow mo video. Come on Canon! I miss the color science and lens selection but having a separate camera for slow mo and shitty codecs are killing me. I don't want to lug around a giant as 1DX

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2018, 01:54:04 PM »
I had hopes for this camera until I saw it shared this new sensor with the new T7.  I suspect the Dynamic range will be an issue.

 ::)
yes because it's been an issue for the 80D,etc which also use a 24MP sensor.
80D and SL2 etc have a 24.2 MP sensor,  this is 24.1  a different sensor, and maybe new.  I hoped it might be what would be going into the 90D, since it showed up in the T7, it is a valued manufactured sensor.   The 80D sensor would make this a nice camera.  The last new sensor I am aware of was for the 6D Mark II, I did buy that camera, it could be better.  I want Canon to be successful.  They seem to be making bad choices.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2018, 01:54:04 PM »