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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2018, 09:02:49 PM »
These specs already upstage EOS M5
not really if you consider ergonomics a part of a camera.
I'd never replace my M5 with this.
not in a million years.
+1

For a stills shooter, there isn't anything here apparently improved over the M5 other than a full tilt/swivel LCD.  For video, yeah, looks like a nice upgrade.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2018, 09:02:49 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #76 on: February 22, 2018, 09:17:22 PM »
i hope they finally switch back to the rebel firmware- the M3/4/5/6 firmware is slow and utterly miserable powershot trash.

The powershot firmware is the reason we got EVF, focus peaking and all the other goodies on the mirrorless side.

also the M5 and M6 in my usage is just as responsive as the M/M2 was.  the m3 was a dog and shouldn't even be in this conversation.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #77 on: February 22, 2018, 09:18:48 PM »
These specs already upstage EOS M5
not really if you consider ergonomics a part of a camera.
I'd never replace my M5 with this.
not in a million years.
+1

For a stills shooter, there isn't anything here apparently improved over the M5 other than a full tilt/swivel LCD.  For video, yeah, looks like a nice upgrade.

there's some cool hints of what an M5 II would have such as eye AF, wider AF area, more focus zones, faster AF, C-RAW, DLO in camera and keeping the M5 stills ergonomics.

DIGIC 8 seems to be bringing alot of processor tricks down to mirrorless.

I find the 24MP sensor in the M5 to be good enough for anything i shoot in terms of APS-C IQ, frankly i don't see me wishing for an upgrade there at all.

That would be a camera i have a hard time saying no to.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #78 on: February 22, 2018, 10:54:46 PM »
It would be really nice if someone comes up with a EF-M to EF speedbooster not the adapter that Canon already selling

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #79 on: February 22, 2018, 11:13:18 PM »
These specs already upstage EOS M5
not really if you consider ergonomics a part of a camera.
I'd never replace my M5 with this.
not in a million years.
+1

For a stills shooter, there isn't anything here apparently improved over the M5 other than a full tilt/swivel LCD.  For video, yeah, looks like a nice upgrade.
At least for me, M6 LCD is more appealing. It is less noticable and needs less space around the camera which is positive for photographing in streets and busy places.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #80 on: February 22, 2018, 11:54:35 PM »
Recent add from CR Guy (see original post on this thread):

"Dual Sensing IS is a body- The information of the lens and the information of the gyro sensor of the lens are used to correct camera shake and improvement of the effect of 0.5 stops"

I think Neuro wins a prize for predicting this one.

The sensor isn't floating relative to the body -- this is not IBIS at all -- so we shouldn't be so surprised at how little of an upside this is.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2018, 04:07:14 AM »
Recent add from CR Guy (see original post on this thread):

"Dual Sensing IS is a body- The information of the lens and the information of the gyro sensor of the lens are used to correct camera shake and improvement of the effect of 0.5 stops"

I think Neuro wins a prize for predicting this one.

The sensor isn't floating relative to the body -- this is not IBIS at all -- so we shouldn't be so surprised at how little of an upside this is.

Looks like this feature was first introduced on the PowerShot side of the fence; it combines the lens gyro sensor data with live visual feed from the sensor. Makes sense in a fixed-lens camera but on the ILC side I'd think it requires special support from the lens to let the camera control the IS unit directly.

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The processing power of DIGIC 7 enables optical image stabilisation with Dual Sensing IS technology, so you can achieve an extra stop of camera shake compensation and shoot in even more tricky situations. DIGIC 7 monitors data in parallel, from both the gyro sensor in the optical Image Stabilizer and the image projected onto the image sensor, to provide high precision corrections of up to 4 stops. It counteracts not only camera shake but also the slow but significant shaking from body movement for easy handheld shooting in lowlight.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2018, 04:07:14 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2018, 04:44:13 AM »
...the vast majority of people slapping new cameras on helmets are doing so with Sony mirrorless.

It is? My experience is not representative of the entire market, but the only cameras I’ve ever seen on helmets are GoPro-type cameras, not ilc’s of any kind.

Then we have Bill and the 35mm movie camera on a football helmet......

....I’m sorry, I’m not sure what you mean here...?

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2018, 04:51:09 AM »
By strange coincidence, Canon professional services Europe just
sent out a newsletter detailing the cinema light raw format:
https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/stories/cinema-raw-light/

Now... think again, everybody: What is this C-Raw inside the M50?
Anybody puking from excitement?

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2018, 08:16:08 AM »
It would be really nice if someone comes up with a EF-M to EF speedbooster not the adapter that Canon already selling

+1

I can see something like 35/2 IS to fit nicely on EOS M.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2018, 08:40:11 AM »
These specs already upstage EOS M5
not really if you consider ergonomics a part of a camera.
I'd never replace my M5 with this.
not in a million years.
+1

For a stills shooter, there isn't anything here apparently improved over the M5 other than a full tilt/swivel LCD.  For video, yeah, looks like a nice upgrade.

there's some cool hints of what an M5 II would have such as eye AF, wider AF area, more focus zones, faster AF, C-RAW, DLO in camera and keeping the M5 stills ergonomics.

DIGIC 8 seems to be bringing alot of processor tricks down to mirrorless.

I find the 24MP sensor in the M5 to be good enough for anything i shoot in terms of APS-C IQ, frankly i don't see me wishing for an upgrade there at all.

That would be a camera i have a hard time saying no to.

+1 absolutely

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2018, 09:41:37 AM »
By strange coincidence, Canon professional services Europe just
sent out a newsletter detailing the cinema light raw format:
https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/stories/cinema-raw-light/

Now... think again, everybody: What is this C-Raw inside the M50?
Anybody puking from excitement?

you're trying to shove a round peg into too many square holes.  Cini RAW light has NOTHING to do with this.  there's no chance in hell this gets raw video of any sort.

Emphatic? yes.  it uses regular SD cards.

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2018, 09:57:22 AM »
It would be really nice if someone comes up with a EF-M to EF speedbooster not the adapter that Canon already selling

Found this one on ebay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EOS-EOSM-Focal-reducer-Auto-focus-adapter-EF-EFM-EF-to-EFM-EOS-to-EOSM-Booster/302623520529

This is definitely not a Metabone quality, but probably interesting for you...

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2018, 09:57:22 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2018, 10:28:11 AM »
By strange coincidence, Canon professional services Europe just
sent out a newsletter detailing the cinema light raw format:
https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/stories/cinema-raw-light/

Now... think again, everybody: What is this C-Raw inside the M50?
Anybody puking from excitement?

you're trying to shove a round peg into too many square holes.  Cini RAW light has NOTHING to do with this.  there's no chance in hell this gets raw video of any sort.

Emphatic? yes.  it uses regular SD cards.

You're probably right. The hardware will have the capability for it, but it wouldn't make sense to add such a feature to a camera who's prime audience wouldn't know how to use, and then end up with unusable footage if they mistakenly record in it.

If lucky enough to crack the DIGIC 8, Magic Lantern would make a killer RAW camera out of this. Most SD card slots nowadays write faster than the CF cards from the 5D Mark III days. 

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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »
By strange coincidence, Canon professional services Europe just
sent out a newsletter detailing the cinema light raw format:
https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/stories/cinema-raw-light/

Now... think again, everybody: What is this C-Raw inside the M50?
Anybody puking from excitement?

you're trying to shove a round peg into too many square holes.  Cini RAW light has NOTHING to do with this.  there's no chance in hell this gets raw video of any sort.

Emphatic? yes.  it uses regular SD cards.

The hardware will have the capability for it

you know this ... how?

canon's SD card writes usually top out at 100mb/sec btw.  the ML raw project used an SD card for the firmware and CF cards for the actual raw data.

Cini light RAW is 1Gps - far exceeding any SD cards going into the M50.
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Re: Canon EOS M50, More Images and Specifications
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »