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The Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI will be announced alongside the Canon EOS M50 in a few days. This was a flash that was supposed to be announced last summer but was delayed for unknown reasons.

Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Specifications: (via Digicame-Info)

  • Auto intelligent (AI) bounce mode of “Full Auto” and “Semi Auto”. With an electric head rotation device, the 470EX-AI automatically determines the optimal bounce position eliminating unnecessary shadows.
  • The guide number is 47 (105 mm). It is driven by 4 AA batteries.
  • It covers the field angle of 24-105mm. Wide panel (14 mm adapter) allows light to spread wide. Clip-on bounce adapter that makes light more soft.
  • Equipped with a dot matrix display that can display more detailed information.
  • The setting can be quickly changed with the shortcut button and the controller wheel.
  • Size 74.6 x 130.4 x 105.1 mm. Weight 385 g (excluding batteries).
  • Price: $399 USD

This new flash is scheduled to begin shipping in April of 2018.

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Re: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 10:34:51 AM »
Damn. Looks like there’s actually automatic adjustment of the bounce angle.  :o

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Re: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 10:35:07 AM »
This was a flash that was supposed to be announced last summer but was delayed for unknown reasons
Maybe it wasn't ... Intelligent enough  ;D

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Re: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2018, 10:36:37 AM »
It looks like the guesses about somehow sensing the distance and color of the bounce surface win. There's a little round sensor-looking thingy next to where the diffuser slides into but nowhere looks like an opening for a second path for light to come out.

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2018, 11:37:39 AM »
maybe Canon held it back for the release of the "EOS 8D Mark II"

btw, what's is the "EOS 8D Mark II"?

see description in announcement !?!?

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2018, 11:38:03 AM »
Who is this even for? I don't get it. Does it spin around measuring distances, etc first? That would add a lot of time to the shot.I feel like if you're savvy enough to understand the usefulness of bouncing a speedlight off a wall or ceiling you'd rather choose for yourself how the light is shaped and just do it quickly.

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 11:46:41 AM »
maybe Canon held it back for the release of the "EOS 8D Mark II"

btw, what's is the "EOS 8D Mark II"?

see description in announcement !?!?


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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 11:46:41 AM »

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 11:59:23 AM »
What is “auto bounce”?

360 degree sensors evaluate the room and the subject, then a motorized head automatically rotates the flash to likely best exposure, based on your selection of 5 steps between "dramatic" and "symmetrical"  8)

Ok, well, here's wishin'

Okay Talys. Your idea was much closer than I expected - I have to give you that. Hat’s off.

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 12:15:36 PM »
What is “auto bounce”?

360 degree sensors evaluate the room and the subject, then a motorized head automatically rotates the flash to likely best exposure, based on your selection of 5 steps between "dramatic" and "symmetrical"  8)

Ok, well, here's wishin'

Okay Talys. Your idea was much closer than I expected - I have to give you that. Hat’s off.

I guess what I thought couldn't be done is now done. Wait for the lawsuit. Canon could not have invented this. Everyone knows Canon doesn't innovate.  ::) :)
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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 01:05:14 PM »
'Auto Intelligence' seems like an awfully grandiose moniker for simple geometry.  ::)
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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 01:36:23 PM »
'Auto Intelligence' seems like an awfully grandiose moniker for simple geometry.  ::)
More difficult than geometry, is knowing the distance, the reflectivity and the color of the ceiling in the real world. If the flash is able to calculate all that and adjust properly, even with the camera in portrait orientation, it would be a great technological leap.
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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 02:22:59 PM »
'Auto Intelligence' seems like an awfully grandiose moniker for simple geometry.  ::)
More difficult than geometry, is knowing the distance, the reflectivity and the color of the ceiling in the real world. If the flash is able to calculate all that and adjust properly, even with the camera in portrait orientation, it would be a great technological leap.

If...

Where in, "With an electric head rotation device, the 470EX-AI automatically determines the optimal bounce position eliminating unnecessary shadows," do you interpret an ability to determine reflectivity and color?  Incidentally, E-TTL will handle the reflectivity, there's no need for the flash to determine that a priori.
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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 02:24:51 PM »
maybe Canon held it back for the release of the "EOS 8D Mark II"

btw, what's is the "EOS 8D Mark II"?

see description in announcement !?!?

that's a machine translation error.

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 02:40:18 PM »
'Auto Intelligence' seems like an awfully grandiose moniker for simple geometry.  ::)
More difficult than geometry, is knowing the distance, the reflectivity and the color of the ceiling in the real world. If the flash is able to calculate all that and adjust properly, even with the camera in portrait orientation, it would be a great technological leap.

If...

Where in, "With an electric head rotation device, the 470EX-AI automatically determines the optimal bounce position eliminating unnecessary shadows," do you interpret an ability to determine reflectivity and color?  Incidentally, E-TTL will handle the reflectivity, there's no need for the flash to determine that a priori.
I really do not like the result of bouncing the flash on ceilings of any color, other than white. If this 470EX can measure and tell the camera the correct color of the reflected light, then it would be something beyond the beautiful words of the marketing staff.

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Re: Updated: Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI Additional Images & Information
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 03:22:23 PM »
'Auto Intelligence' seems like an awfully grandiose moniker for simple geometry.  ::)
More difficult than geometry, is knowing the distance, the reflectivity and the color of the ceiling in the real world. If the flash is able to calculate all that and adjust properly, even with the camera in portrait orientation, it would be a great technological leap.

If...

Where in, "With an electric head rotation device, the 470EX-AI automatically determines the optimal bounce position eliminating unnecessary shadows," do you interpret an ability to determine reflectivity and color?  Incidentally, E-TTL will handle the reflectivity, there's no need for the flash to determine that a priori.

But E-TTL cannot measure the reflectivity of the bounce surface so this has to be handled by the flash to mix the direct and bounced fractions of light correctly.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 03:22:23 PM »