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Don Haines

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 04:21:13 PM »
Does any know if we'll see a jump in image quality on the stills front regarding the new M50?

i'd say no.  it's probably a safe guess. the rumors didn't really say much about improved sensor,etc.

I agree, probably very little difference.... we are getting close to the limits of the tech..... unless they change the tech! I find the CR3 files to be “interesting”.... they could herald a radical tech change, or they could be introducing a file format for a future change, possibly in the 7D3, or it could mean nothing more than housekeeping....

My bet is on an improvement that only the most fanatical pixel peepers can notice.....
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 04:21:13 PM »

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2018, 04:33:33 PM »
I have read somewhere that Canon RAW files contain somewhat more dynamic range and ability to push shadows than is currently being exploited.
LINK: http://www.clarkvision.com/articles/canon.raw.processing1/
Software like Adobe Camera RAW doesn't know how to fully exploit this, and we get weird color shifts and more noise when doing extreme shadow pushing.

This is due to how Canon format their RAW files, with Sony, Nikon and others doing things differently.

Please don't misunderstand me... I'm not saying Canon can equal or beat Sony dynamic range.... just that the gap is narrower.

Maybe these new RAW files will make things easier.... just move a slider and you're done.
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »
The Pricing of the M50 is a real surprise considering Canon priced G1X mark III a whopping $1300 I hope there is no disappointment in terms of codec and crop factor

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2018, 04:59:12 PM »
Seems like it'll be a great camera for both vloggers and those who watch vlogs.  Great AF and crisp 4K at an affordable price.  I'm mostly a vlog watcher, and am getting pretty tired of all the focus hunting and warping I see from other cameras trying to get and keep focus.  Production value isn't everything, but focus is probably second only to sound on the technical side of things in importance.

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2018, 05:18:39 PM »
Compared to M5, it is just missing some controls. I have SL2 which is even basic then rebl T6 cameras in terms of better. But I can still set all three parameters (SS, Aperture and EV) on the fly. I have mapped set button to EV. With auto ISO, it is not that difficult to manager with few buttons for simple users.
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2018, 05:26:03 PM »
If we get decent 4K, then Canon should be planning a C100 mark III with 4K.

If we get full sensor 4K, DPAF, Canon colors etc... C100 mark II doesnt look so good in comparison (I realize there are many other things to a pro video camera).
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2018, 05:53:15 PM »
If we get decent 4K, then Canon should be planning a C100 mark III with 4K.

If we get full sensor 4K, DPAF, Canon colors etc... C100 mark II doesnt look so good in comparison (I realize there are many other things to a pro video camera).

The C100 mark II has not looked decent in a while, it's just a mild update of the C100 that was released 6 years ago. The C100 was a reliable 1080p camera that provided a great image given the lightweight and editor friendly codec. For professionals, the M50 sits as the perfect B-roll camera to the XF400. Personally, I may switch to the XF405 or C200 and M50 combo if the M50 turns out well, I've been drooling for a Canon workflow again for the last few years.

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2018, 05:53:15 PM »

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2018, 06:00:24 PM »
Shocking low price for a camera that seems to have better specs than its closest kin, the EOS M5.

Canon is going all out to grab MILC market shares. Reminds me of the EOS 300D.

PS: Body-only prices at B&H - Sony A6300 US$798 and A6500 US$1298.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 06:36:40 PM by Woody »

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2018, 06:29:49 PM »
Wow, that's a great price.

It would be a nice replacement for an 70D+10-18 that I sometimes have clipped to my backpack or belt (either camera #2 or #3 when I go birding).

Yes, it is missing a lot ergonomically (controls, I mean), and I would never use this for a main camera, but I usually carry something wide to shoot the odd neat spot or strange tree when I go birding.

Re - Speedlite - that is a decent price there, too.

an M5 or M6 with a 11-22 or 22 would really be a better option for this really.

Yep – M6 + M11-22 in a Lowepro Dashpoint 30 makes a great tag-along.

M6 is not an option, because I like my cameras to have a viewfinder and a hotshoe.  If you take that away, it becomes impossible (or at least really hard) to use as a spare, as I use a lot of flash/strobe.

I've almost bought an M5 and 11-22 about a half dozen times, but ended up buying something else instead.  It would actually probably be great - I just never end up going through with it because it doesn't really change anything, and would be more to satisfy my desire to buy a gadget than anything else.

I use the peak designs capture clip (the new smaller one), for taking a small body along - I really like it.

Compared to M5, it is just missing some controls. I have SL2 which is even basic then rebl T6 cameras in terms of better. But I can still set all three parameters (SS, Aperture and EV) on the fly. I have mapped set button to EV. With auto ISO, it is not that difficult to manager with few buttons for simple users.

The controls are really critical for a main camera, where I need to set/change exposure continually, and, less so, to change AF modes.  There's just no getting around one dial for shutter speed and one for aperture.

However, as a tag-along, especially one for just wide-ish shots, that is much less of an issue for me.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 06:36:46 PM by Talys »

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2018, 06:55:55 PM »
The Pricing of the M50 is a real surprise considering Canon priced G1X mark III a whopping $1300 I hope there is no disappointment in terms of codec and crop factor

I think I would rather argue that the G1X III was the surprise. And they complain the compact market is dying- at that price it deserves to die.

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2018, 06:56:08 PM »
Wow, that's a great price.

It would be a nice replacement for an 70D+10-18 that I sometimes have clipped to my backpack or belt (either camera #2 or #3 when I go birding).

Yes, it is missing a lot ergonomically (controls, I mean), and I would never use this for a main camera, but I usually carry something wide to shoot the odd neat spot or strange tree when I go birding.

Re - Speedlite - that is a decent price there, too.

an M5 or M6 with a 11-22 or 22 would really be a better option for this really.

Yep – M6 + M11-22 in a Lowepro Dashpoint 30 makes a great tag-along.

M6 is not an option, because I like my cameras to have a viewfinder and a hotshoe.  If you take that away, it becomes impossible (or at least really hard) to use as a spare, as I use a lot of flash/strobe.

I've almost bought an M5 and 11-22 about a half dozen times, but ended up buying something else instead.  It would actually probably be great - I just never end up going through with it because it doesn't really change anything, and would be more to satisfy my desire to buy a gadget than anything else.

I use the peak designs capture clip (the new smaller one), for taking a small body along - I really like it.

personally, I had zero interest in an M camera before this one..... this is a different story!
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2018, 07:49:16 PM »
Game over Panny & Oly.

The countdown for the first Rebel with 4K has started.


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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 08:46:03 PM »
This looks like the first Canon mirrorless that I'd really like to have.
However, there is a 99% chance that I will get a used 6D sometime around April/May.

I just need to get a calculator and see how much some nice glass is going to cost me.... and how the price compares to a crop body with crop lenses.
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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 08:46:03 PM »

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2018, 09:02:59 PM »
Shocking low price for a camera that seems to have better specs than its closest kin, the EOS M5.
ummm vastly inferior ergonomics.

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2018, 09:06:56 PM »
Wow, that's a great price.

It would be a nice replacement for an 70D+10-18 that I sometimes have clipped to my backpack or belt (either camera #2 or #3 when I go birding).

Yes, it is missing a lot ergonomically (controls, I mean), and I would never use this for a main camera, but I usually carry something wide to shoot the odd neat spot or strange tree when I go birding.

Re - Speedlite - that is a decent price there, too.

an M5 or M6 with a 11-22 or 22 would really be a better option for this really.

Yep – M6 + M11-22 in a Lowepro Dashpoint 30 makes a great tag-along.

M6 is not an option, because I like my cameras to have a viewfinder and a hotshoe.  If you take that away, it becomes impossible (or at least really hard) to use as a spare, as I use a lot of flash/strobe.


okay.. but you ended up specifying two different cameras.  the M6 is certainly a better tag-along.

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Re: Here is the USD Pricing for the EOS M50 & Speedlite 470EX-AI
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2018, 09:06:56 PM »