If the 5dX/III gets "1d x af" or even 61 points with less sensitivty, and 22mp and 7 fps, why would anyone buy a 1d X? And I am completely aware of how a 5d2 and a 1d mk4 compares, and although I used every single functon of the 1d4, the center point of the 5d is is still better in many ways, MUCH cleaner low iso files, the only thing the 5d lacks is the specs that seem to indicate what the 5dX would look like, but then the benefits of the 1d X will be washed away, and for half the price, I think a lot of people who HAD to buy a 1d for certain areas of use, like me, are more than willing to sacrifice AF- tracking sensitivty and live with one or three dual-cross points compared to 5...
To me, the 5d specs looks waaaaaay off, considering what the 1d X brings to the table. 22mp at 7 fps with 61 point AF, no way.... If the 1d X hadn't been released yet, then yeah, but after seeing that, how can they make the 5d THAT close, they have learned that the VEERY hard way from destroying the 1ds3 sales with the 5d2....
Point taken but the same could have been said about the D700 and D800 and nikons flagships... To the point, there are those who will want and need the size/build/etc of the 1d series and will never look to the 5d series... and visa versa... there will be 1d shooters needing a quality baby brother they can take with them that's less conspicuous vs the 1d seires but be able to shoot with it without missing a beat. Plus Canon knows the market share of photographers, even pro's who can afford or will shoot with 1dx's are far smaller, even a fraction of those who shoots 5d series and with the gantlet of the D800 being thrown and most definitely sony will throw out their version, so canon needs to do something to keep 5d shooters 5d shooters.
So you are willing to buy the 1-series for double the price to double the size and weight of your camera?
Nikon separated the D4 and the D800 with resolution/low light quality, that is a very good call. I need mp's, get the d800 for your studio, I need to able to shoot in the dark and fast action, I'll get the D4.
If the 5d and the 1d X have basically the same res, same AF, same sensor overall, I can't see how they could defend the 1d X for potential customers. I mean, although the 1-series are better weathersealed, the 5d is still weathersealed, and I have used it in grim conditions without a hitch.
I'm arguing this way to get some valid points, because I am a 1-series shooter for a reason, but if the 5d gets THOSE specs, then my needs are very much filled, and for double the price, hmmm, well.....
How hard do you throw your camera in to waterpuddle to defend double the price?
I for one, hope that when trying them side by side, the answer will become VERY clear, otherwise I'm downgrading, and I think a lot of people like me will......
Well while I cannot speak for others, I would suppose the difference between those two are similar to those between the 60D and the T3i, except, the are the exact same AF, exact same sensor, ISO, etc... but the 60D you get the ergonomics, FPS, robust body (kinda compared between the two), etc.. If i made my living with the 1d series, you betcha i'd be getting the 1d series replacement. I dont know you or your photography business/model/clientele, assuming you are professional to begin with. I shoot professionally and have a rough idea of who buys what cameras, and leaving aside the rich enthusiasts amateurs who get the best gear just because they can, the professional market who get such cameras ($2000+) are the general base of professional photographers and depend on those cameras. Those who get the 1d series either needs those bodies to perform a function that "lesser" cameras cannot do, which was AF, ISO, integrated batt grip, weather sealing, dedicated buttons, no mode dial, dual cards, insane shutter durability, voice dictation, status, etc...
Now lets be practical here... IF the new camera is "only" a 22MP or such sensor, the 5d wont have the FPS speed, wont have the 204KISO capabilities, i'd be supprised but grateful for 51K ISO to be honest... weatersealing, not as much... AF, maybe a dumbed down 61 or maybe an older 45 pt AF from previous cameras... no insane shutter durability, voice dictation, batt grip integrated, dual cards (or if it does, it may be a crippled cf + sd such as the D800...) There is enough features to keep agencies, newspapers, magazines, freelancers to get this camera without thinking twice.
Now lets jump off the deep end and pretend the camera comes with a 30+ MP camera... drop the ISO capabilities down to 25k and FPS to 4. There are trade off's everywhere and professionals such as you (presumably) and me will have to weigh what matters most to us and what direction we want to go towards.