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Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« on: March 07, 2018, 11:37:19 AM »
Keith, tilt-shift expert extraordinaire has posted his review of the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro.

Detailing not only sample images, but details on why you’d use such a lens in the real world, Keith’s review is a must read if you are thinking of purchasing the TS-E 135mm.

His conclusions;

What a lens – in many ways one of the best quality lenses I’ve seriously tested.

The 10º of tilt, 12mm of shift and wide open sharpness make it a joy to use for product photography, giving a level of creative control previously more in the realm of large format view cameras. Make no mistake, this is a lens that you will have to work with to get the best from.

Read more here.. 

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Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 12:24:03 PM »
Regarding Tilt Shift lenses, I've never used them but I've heard Canon's are by far the best. A Nikon friend recently told me that Nikon's were excellent. Which ones are better?
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 01:21:10 PM »
Regarding Tilt Shift lenses, I've never used them but I've heard Canon's are by far the best. A Nikon friend recently told me that Nikon's were excellent. Which ones are better?

The latest Canon ones, 17, 24 MkII, 50, 90 and 135 all have independent tilt and swing rotation. Only the Nikon PC-E 19 has the same feature. I find that independent rotation useful and wouldn't buy a T/S lens that doesn't have it.

IQ wise the Canon's are tough to beat and they all take the 1.4 and 2x TC's well with little loss of IQ.

P.S. Canon's implementation of Live View, the only way to get the best results from T/S lenses, is much better with Canon cameras than Nikon cameras.
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 01:29:53 PM »
P.S. Canon's implementation of Live View, the only way to get the best results from T/S lenses, is much better with Canon cameras than Nikon cameras.

I would certainly imagine that Canon's implementation of Live View would be better on their own cameras :)


Actually, the BEST way to get results for product photography is to use the camera tethered and use your computer screen to adjust focus.
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 02:05:58 PM »
P.S. Canon's implementation of Live View, the only way to get the best results from T/S lenses, is much better with Canon cameras than Nikon cameras.

I would certainly imagine that Canon's implementation of Live View would be better on their own cameras :)


Actually, the BEST way to get results for product photography is to use the camera tethered and use your computer screen to adjust focus.

That's still Live View.  ;)
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 02:43:57 PM »
Shame there's no portrait examples, 'cause that's where this lens is most interesting. Had a play with the 90mm for portraits and product and it's definitely superb for the latter—I have ordered two for that purpose—but 90mm is just a little too short for a tight headshot. Been trying to get hold of the 135 to test, but it seems like they're snapped up the moment they land on these shores.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 02:57:15 PM »
Had a play with the 90mm for portraits and product and it's definitely superb for the latter—I have ordered two for that purpose

Stereo photography, or 3D ?

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 02:57:15 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 03:10:53 PM »
Shame there's no portrait examples, 'cause that's where this lens is most interesting. Had a play with the 90mm for portraits and product and it's definitely superb for the latter—I have ordered two for that purpose—but 90mm is just a little too short for a tight headshot. Been trying to get hold of the 135 to test, but it seems like they're snapped up the moment they land on these shores.

Quite intentional I'm afraid...
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To be honest, it's also a lens I'd just never think of using for portraits, all that sharpness...  I'd much rather have the Canon 135/2 (if I did such work)  Any use of tilt just looks too gimmicky for my tastes, but YMMV, and if you got that much spare cash why not ;-)

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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 03:37:14 PM »
Regarding Tilt Shift lenses, I've never used them but I've heard Canon's are by far the best. A Nikon friend recently told me that Nikon's were excellent. Which ones are better?

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I really dont think this lens has much utility to offer. Its a lens not many have asked for

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 04:49:07 PM »
I really dont think this lens has much utility to offer. Its a lens not many have asked for

I really do think Canon knows more about the lens market than you.
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 04:50:25 PM »
I really dont think this lens has much utility to offer. Its a lens not many have asked for

It looks they are enough for Canon to make one - fields like product photography may not attract much attention and may not win you a place in an exhibition, but there's demand and one can make good money. Just look around you how many images are product photography - the whole ads business is built around it, and there's more (magazines, catalogs, packaging, etc.)

BTW, AFAIK the Zeiss has shift only, not tilt. And it's 35mm, not 135.
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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 07:55:36 PM »
Regarding Tilt Shift lenses, I've never used them but I've heard Canon's are by far the best. A Nikon friend recently told me that Nikon's were excellent. Which ones are better?

Canon and Nikon are dirt cheap compared to these....

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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 08:23:33 PM »
Had a play with the 90mm for portraits and product and it's definitely superb for the latter—I have ordered two for that purpose

Stereo photography, or 3D ?

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With stereoscopic imaging, you DO NOT want to shift the focal plane but rather correct for parallax which requires rotating and turning the ENTIRE sensor AND lens as a single unit. With tilt shift however, you CAN narrow down the focal plane to such a level that you can create a wide-view or tall-view 3D-like viewpoint on a single product or object IF you shoot at two differing angles from the same camera location.

With some judicious post-production, you can create a stacked image that when combined keeps a small area of the image fully focused and the rest unfocused in such a way that the "Centre of Attention" looks like it is coming out at you just like in the movies, even though it is only a single still image (i.e. it is a combination of two differently exposed images!). It is designed to take advantage of foibles within the human vision system and while I haven't tested that usage, it might work for moving video!

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 08:23:33 PM »

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Re: Northlight reviews the TS-E 135mm F4L Macro
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 10:33:03 PM »
Regarding Tilt Shift lenses, I've never used them but I've heard Canon's are by far the best. A Nikon friend recently told me that Nikon's were excellent. Which ones are better?

Obviously I'll sound biased because I'm on a Canon forum, but I don't think Nikon tilt-shift offerings are remotely in the same class as Canons. And I think that applied even before these three most recent lenses came out, so it's even more true now.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 11:11:08 PM »
It's expensive and for special purposes. I'd never have the use for one of them, and can't afford one anyway.

But far out, every time I see it, I desperately want to get one. It's gorgeous, and exploring tilt-shift at that focal length would be so much fun.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 11:11:08 PM »