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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« on: March 15, 2018, 07:55:56 AM »

We reported a couple of months ago that a new EF 70-200mm was coming some time in 2018. Unfortunately, it’s not a new EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III.


Instead it looks like we’re getting an EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II.


We are unsure of the exact announcement date for this new lens, but ahead of Photokina would make sense


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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« on: March 15, 2018, 07:55:56 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 08:02:44 AM »
Thanks for the announcement.  I really would like to read a rumor about a 400 f/5.6 update; I almost certainly would buy it.

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 08:11:59 AM »
What will be new? Difficult to see how they could improve optically on this lens and the 4-stop IS is excellent. I have always found it to be a stunning performer.

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 08:30:57 AM »
What will be new? Difficult to see how they could improve optically on this lens and the 4-stop IS is excellent. I have always found it to be a stunning performer.
+1 Same for its 2.8 big brother! Too good to be improved substantially!

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 08:36:17 AM »
Let me remind people about the 24-105mm f/4L IS II.....
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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 08:52:01 AM »
Let me remind people about the 24-105mm f/4L IS II.....

I’d like to hear your take on why they bothered with that lens.

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 08:52:59 AM »
They can make the IS more quiet. Apart from this they can also increase price and introduce a nice III in the place where a lowly II existed  ;D ;D ;D

(Just like the update of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!)

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 08:52:59 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 09:16:13 AM »
Maybe the design flaw known as "slippery autofocus", where if you pointed the lens upwards and it won't focus, because of the inner mechanism in USM slipping. Happened to my friend. Bill for the repair at Canon CPS was around 2/3 price of the used lens on the market.

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 09:38:38 AM »
Now that the cat's out of the bag with regards to IS on the M50, I expect a full line refresh of all of the older IS lenses. They need to be able to have updatable firmware to interface with internal IS systems for maximum effectiveness for future full frame mirrorless cameras. 
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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 09:48:44 AM »
Let me remind people about the 24-105mm f/4L IS II.....

 ;D :D

Too true.  And there was room for improvement there.

While I am always excited to see what "new and improved" looks like, I'd still call the 70-200 f/4 IS class leading:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/03/just-the-lenses-the-70-200mm-f4-comparison/

Maybe some improvement away from center?

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 09:56:11 AM »
Let me remind people about the 24-105mm f/4L IS II.....

Spoilsport  ;)

Seriously though, around 2013 Lens Rentals did a series of very interesting articles on the accuracy of phase detect AF in the latest ( at the time) Canon dslrs and how lenses produced around 2012 had to be used to achieve the same phase detect accuracy and precision as contrast detect. They concluded that it was due to a 'closed loop' communication system between camera and lens, and the USM lenses required a direction indicator to achieve this level of accuracy. So don't expect AF miracles with your new Canon 5DIII and your 1990 EF 85/1.8

So these seemingly minor upgrades of lenses like the 24-105, and possibly this 70-200 may be based upon more accurate phase detect AF. Of course we all know that this is a complete waste of time as mirrorless is the future and the dslr is dead, but Canon appears to have not realised this yet, and is still investing time and resources in giving those poor fools who still use dslrs better tools  ;)
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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 10:14:22 AM »
Coatings to reduce flare and CA, higher quality engineering plastic, quieter IS,better panning mode, ARCA foot plate....some or all of these would be welcome.
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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2018, 10:21:43 AM »
Now that the cat's out of the bag with regards to IS on the M50, I expect a full line refresh of all of the older IS lenses. They need to be able to have updatable firmware to interface with internal IS systems for maximum effectiveness for future full frame mirrorless cameras.

Which is why it won't be an EF mount.
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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2018, 10:21:43 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2018, 10:40:18 AM »
I can't imagine it being much sharper, if at all. It could definitely have less vignette and quieter IS. Less distortion at 70mm would be nice but I would think there are limits to what you can really do a out that. Maybe better transmission? The last few Canon lenses have transmission almost match the f stop and the current 70-200 4 IS is about a half stop slower than it could be.

But Canon has a trend of putting the prices way up on every revision and part of the strength of the 70-200 4 IS is it's good value. I'd like an upgrade but I doubt they can improve it enough to justify the inevitable price rise. Especially after they already put their prices up by like £300 on the current version in this country.

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2018, 11:35:59 AM »
What will be new? Difficult to see how they could improve optically on this lens and the 4-stop IS is excellent. I have always found it to be a stunning performer.
+1 Same for its 2.8 big brother! Too good to be improved substantially!

maybe they will make it an ounce lighter

Or like the 24-105 Mark II just a new SKU and price jump

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Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Confirmed
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2018, 11:35:59 AM »