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The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« on: March 21, 2018, 08:30:42 AM »
We have confirmed that the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II will be announced in April. We have not confirmed if the Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM has moved up to April from the original Photokina announcement we were previously told about.

We also think there is a good chance that another 70-200mm lens will be coming for Photokina in September.

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The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« on: March 21, 2018, 08:30:42 AM »

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2018, 08:47:18 AM »
Depending on the specs and price, this might be a take my money Canon moment.

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 08:49:40 AM »
Does it come in E-mount?

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2018, 09:32:54 AM »
Does it come in E-mount?

You mean in FE Mount? Or maybe in doomed EF Mode? or in Typo-mode? And damn, again without 50mm 1.4 IS mode.

But to be serious, the 50mm 1.2 and 1.4 would need a update more urgently than this already fantastic zoom lens, ok maybe except if it could be produced cheaper (which is maybee no more possible for the 50mm primes, which are all simple Double-Gauss Designs.
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 09:50:01 AM »
Does it come in E-mount?

In a few years it might be Canon's only hope of selling these lenses !
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 10:04:54 AM »
Does it come in E-mount?
In a few years it might be Canon's only hope of selling these lenses !

You mean the Sony E mount 70-200 f/4 G OSS lens was so awfully designed (it weighed (840g) MORE than Canon EF 70-200 f/4 IS (760g) designed for full frame DSLRs) that E mount users are now green with envy?

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 10:45:12 AM »
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But to be serious, the 50mm 1.2 and 1.4 would need a update more urgently than this already fantastic zoom lens, ok maybe except if it could be produced cheaper (which is maybee no more possible for the 50mm primes, which are all simple Double-Gauss Designs.

Or there is more dosh to made out of new 70~200, both versions?
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 10:45:12 AM »

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2018, 11:16:31 AM »
Any chance this new 70-200 f/4 reverts to an externally zooming (i.e. length-changing) design like the 70-300L?

I know the zero-length-change of the 70-200 L lenses is attractive for a host of a reasons, but so is a smaller lens that fits in smaller bags.  I love my 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, but a much smaller version of it for travel would be attractive. 

In general, I'm just curious why some L zooms get the compact/telescoping designs (100-400, 70-300, 24-something, surely the future 'inexpensive' -500 or -600 zoom) while others get the rigid fixed length treatment (70-200s, 200-400).

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 11:21:34 AM »
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But to be serious, the 50mm 1.2 and 1.4 would need a update more urgently than this already fantastic zoom lens, ok maybe except if it could be produced cheaper (which is maybee no more possible for the 50mm primes, which are all simple Double-Gauss Designs.

Or there is more dosh to made out of new 70~200, both versions?
When I see press conferences or when I just take a walk through my local zoo I am really amazed by the number of white tele zoom lenses I see there. And also at events and weddings where low light performance might be important, zooms rule over primes - at least by numbers not in IQ.
So these zooms, the two 70-200 and the 100-400, are surely the ones with the highest numbers at L lenses and therefore big cash cows.
So even if I can understand (and also have) the desire to get new better primes I can also understand that Canon sees the priorities different than some enthusiasts and studio photogs that are outnumbered by the zoom buyers.
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2018, 11:23:53 AM »
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But to be serious, the 50mm 1.2 and 1.4 would need a update more urgently than this already fantastic zoom lens, ok maybe except if it could be produced cheaper (which is maybee no more possible for the 50mm primes, which are all simple Double-Gauss Designs.

Or there is more dosh to made out of new 70~200, both versions?

Bingo!  I wonder how many new middle to high end 50mm primes Canon thinks it could sell in comparison to the two new 70-200's.  For quite a long time now,  Canon has been focussing on the zooms, especially the core trinity--the 16-35's, the 24-xxx's, and the 70-200's.  It seems quite clear to me that Canon sees the zoom trinity as the foundation for its lens development strategy.  Still, I wonder why Canon thinks it should put out a new 70-200 f4 and a new 70-200 f2.8.

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 11:26:10 AM »
Does it come in E-mount?
In a few years it might be Canon's only hope of selling these lenses !

You mean the Sony E mount 70-200 f/4 G OSS lens was so awfully designed (it weighed (840g) MORE than Canon EF 70-200 f/4 IS (760g) designed for full frame DSLRs) that E mount users are now green with envy?

At least it breaks in two for transport:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4190160

Oh, wait... that isn’t a feature, it breaks in two during transport!  ;D

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 11:29:21 AM »
Any chance this new 70-200 f/4 reverts to an externally zooming (i.e. length-changing) design like the 70-300L?
Zero Chance IMO. That "form factor" is settled.
I understand the thought but even third party suppliers think that changing the zoom range is the better differentiator than barrel design and size, see the Tamron 70-210 f/4
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2018, 11:45:03 AM »
Any chance this new 70-200 f/4 reverts to an externally zooming (i.e. length-changing) design like the 70-300L?

I know the zero-length-change of the 70-200 L lenses is attractive for a host of a reasons, but so is a smaller lens that fits in smaller bags.  I love my 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, but a much smaller version of it for travel would be attractive. 

In general, I'm just curious why some L zooms get the compact/telescoping designs (100-400, 70-300, 24-something, surely the future 'inexpensive' -500 or -600 zoom) while others get the rigid fixed length treatment (70-200s, 200-400)

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Interesting.  There are those among us who yearn for a new high quality 50mm prime, while others pine for  compact f4 zooms (but not necessarily with an EF mount). 

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 11:45:13 AM »
So these zooms, the two 70-200 and the 100-400, are surely the ones with the highest numbers at L lenses and therefore big cash cows.

Potentially profitable lenses, sure, but I'm not sure they are very high runners.  At first glance, I'd guess 24-something f/4 L lenses and possibly the old 17-40 f/4L would be much higher runners than the shorter/slower white zooms you referenced.

I did a quick check of Amazon's best sellers of "Best Sellers in Digital Camera Lenses" and only one Canon L zoom cracked the Top 100 (against a sea of primes, non-L zooms and options for different sensor sizes, etc.):

It was the 24-105L IS (Mk I) at #60. 

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Re: The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II is Coming in April [CR3]
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 11:51:02 AM »
I'm curious just how light they could make this. The Non IS f/4L is only 2 ounces lighter than the IS model. Have engineering plastics come so far that that could really be a factor for this? I for one am not considering it to be an extending version.  So with the exceptional 12 year old optical formula, what other than weight and improved IS can be done? One other thing, what is the precedent for price drops on the older model in regards to 70-200's when the next Mark comes out?
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