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Author Topic: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]  (Read 4073 times)

symmar22

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2018, 09:25:25 AM »
I've drooled over the 17 TS-E in the past and I'm sure I'll drool over this as well.  I love so many of the images I've seen created with the current version I've debated whether or not it is worth it to buy one, but I just don't think it would get enough use to justify adding it to my camera bag.

Anyone in here actually own the current version?  What room for improvement is there on the current version?

IMO not much, sharpness wise, you don't need much more (I use it on a 5DSr) the extreme corners when fully shifted  could be better, but I think we are already close to the limit of what's possible for such a focal length. Distortion is close to zero, which is amazing. The only thing that would be a great improvement for me is a better internal /surface treatment, since the weak point of the lens is clearly flare. When you do interior photography, any light coming through a window in the frame will inevitably produce either ghosts (can be removed most of the time in post) or haze on a good part of the image that is much more difficult if not impossible to deal with in Photoshop.

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2018, 09:25:25 AM »

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2018, 09:37:14 AM »
The only thing that would be a great improvement for me is a better internal /surface treatment, since the weak point of the lens is clearly flare. When you do interior photography, any light coming through a window in the frame will inevitably produce either ghosts (can be removed most of the time in post) or haze on a good part of the image that is much more difficult if not impossible to deal with in Photoshop.

Agreed.  I do a fair amount of blue hour architectural photography, and I often need to block the light from streetlights just outside the frame, either with a 'flag' (which is usually the WonderPana filter pouch) or my hand.
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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2018, 01:02:39 PM »

Anyone in here actually own the current version?  What room for improvement is there on the current version?

Honestly it's a great lens. But nobody is perfect of course. What could be improved:

- Vignetting is really bad when shifted, specially in portrait orientation "looking up" to reduce this, it must be stopped down significantly
- Mechanical it could be better. My one is working fine, but the shift gear seems quite weak, has flexible and fragile feel. Upwards, i alwas shift it on the body to not break it
- sharper is better and can be always. But compared to the 24-105 and the 50L it's tack sharp, the 24mm is reviewed to be better, and the newly released seems to be even better. but this i dont know from own expierience.
- maybe it could be produced cheaper and be sold more expensive, if it's "new"
- Maybe it's for mirrorless. It could be one of the lenses profiting from a shorter flange distance. But Yeah, it's the first lens a new mount needs
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 01:12:13 PM by hendrik-sg »

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2018, 03:04:57 PM »
EF full-frame non L:  3 lenses, of which only one (the 24-105 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM) is a 100% new design

I got this as my kit lens with the 6D2. The purchase was enough of a financial stretch for me at the time, and from the reviews I didn't see any real advantage to the L except for the extra stop on the long end, and the STM version has its own useful virtues. I've been pleased enough with it that I don't feel the need to duplicate focal lengths in that range with primes any time soon. I had just three EF lenses at the time of purchase. Instead, I will add wider and longer zooms than it is. I'm not sure which to do first. I know which ultra wide I want, but not which telephoto. And if I need an ultra wide all of a sudden, I can get out my T3i and 10-22mm lens. My 75-300mm lens is the lowest quality one in my bunch, and so would be the obvious first candidate for replacement.

The kit zoom works exceedingly well with the 6D2, especially in terms of fast and accurate autofocus. It may not sell as well as the L version, but Canon did well to design it and add it as an option.

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2018, 11:15:52 PM »
I would really be surprised if Canon released some useful lenses this year like a 24-70mm f/2.8L IS or 50mm f/1.4L IS or 250mm f/4 IS Macro with ring-type USM motors. :)

Useful to who? Those lenses are useless to me. You can pick get a nice sigma 50 if you like. Canon has people like me still in their lens system because of these TS-Es.

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I joined the Canon system mostly because of the 17mm TS-E and the fact that the 24mm is about the sharpest 24mm lens around... The Sigma 50 Art is doing me more than fine for a 50mm prime.

Saying that, it would be interesting seeing what gets improved in the 17 TS-E - its a damn impressive lens already. I cant see myself upgrading any time in future anyway.

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Re: A New Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lens Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2018, 11:15:52 PM »