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*BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« on: February 19, 2012, 07:36:12 AM »
BUSTED? Simonxu11 on our forum busted this one pretty quickly. It appears at least one of these spec lists appeared last May on Camera Gear Guide.

thanks Simon

The split in the line is still something that has come from a few places. The most common resolution numbers for each camera are 22mp and 34mp. Again, everyone is pointing to two full frame cameras under the 1D X.

New Specs? The following specs have shown up on a Chinese web store. How factual it is, I am unsure. Some of the specs I’ve seen, others I haven’t. However, if there’s a split of the 5D line, and all signs point that way, some specs may be getting mashed across each model. More about the split in a bit.

5D Mark III (source) 26.4mp 19 AF Points 4.9fps DIGIC V Wireless Flash Operation

5D X (source) 45mp 61 AF points DIGIC 5 & DIGIC 4

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*BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« on: February 19, 2012, 07:36:12 AM »

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 07:48:25 AM »
Oh boy...  :D

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 07:51:28 AM »
5D Mark III
26.4mp
19 AF Points
4.9fps
DIGIC V
Wireless Flash Operation


Will be giant fail of canon

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 07:54:06 AM »
if they change the AF between the 2 versions it would make more sense.

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 07:55:59 AM »
The 5d mark III rumors cannot be trusted, it was there since May 2011
This is the source:
http://www.cameragearguide.com/3395/rumor-canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-released-in-may-for-canon-expo-2011-in-shanghai-china-we-doubt-it/

And as a Chinese, I know ZOL website is highly unreliable.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 07:58:01 AM by simonxu11 »

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 07:56:31 AM »
if they change the AF between the 2 versions it would make more sense.


Yes. That makes sense. Creating an entry FF (being MKIII) and a middle level FF (being 5DX)
 A lot of APS-C users that want to enter the FF would have a smaller stepup. That would be good news!
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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 07:59:00 AM »
I don't understand:

5D was once famous for the first with high MP
5DII exactly the same
5DIII would then normally be high MP as well

1DX merges full frame with high fps
You would expect 5DX to do the same: combine ff and high fps

Based on rumors they would do the opposite: not logical to me...

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 08:01:27 AM »
It would seem to me that the AF module and the FPS are mixed up between the two really.

The 1Dx churns out 18Mp x 12fps = 216 Mp/s

When you reverse it on a 45MP sensor, you get 4.8fps.   

So, it doesn't make much sense to get only 4.9fps on the 5DIII if it "only" has 26.4MP.  Likewise, it doesn't make sense to put a top of the line AF on a slow FPS camera either.  When in a sense, a 19pt 7D sensor is quite suffice??

I would think, that the specs should read :

5DIII: 45MP, 19pt AF, 4.9fps, High Dynamic Range,  moderate  ISO 12.8k-25.6k. 

It would make sense as a high pixel camera for landscape, studio, product work.

5Dx : 26.4mp, 61pt AF , 8 fps High ISO 51.2k- 102.4k,

It would fit into the role of a compact, photojournalist, sub-sports, do everything camera body.

Makes more sense ???  ???

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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 08:28:40 AM »
Getting the 19 point AF instead of a 1 series level AF on the next 5DmkII would be disappointing.  I also agree with some of the change maxxevv is suggesting in that a 61 pt AF system makes more sense in a 26MP camera then it does in a 45MP camera.  I would assume the 45MP camera is more for studios and landscape and as such the 19pt would be sufficient.  The 26MP model will be used a lot more for sports stuff (assuming you dont already have a 1DX in your collection)...

That said, still not sure it is a wise move to put anything below a 1 series level AF system in the new 5D(s)...
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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 08:40:00 AM »
Its getting "nearer" and specs are getting harder to nail this time round. Really cant wait for the so-called announcement date... :'(

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »
Didn't last long!

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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 08:45:23 AM »
Hum,I just wanna say,as a canon fan from China ,I read every piece of news about the successor of 5d2 at Chinese websites for 2 years.What I should say is every (yes,I said every)news was copyed and translated from abroad.Our webs do not have any source can bring us fresh and independent news. So do not trust them.I rank this for CR0.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2012, 02:03:04 AM by windscmoon »

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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 09:00:30 AM »
Getting the 19 point AF instead of a 1 series level AF on the next 5DmkII would be disappointing.  I also agree with some of the change maxxevv is suggesting in that a 61 pt AF system makes more sense in a 26MP camera then it does in a 45MP camera.  I would assume the 45MP camera is more for studios and landscape and as such the 19pt would be sufficient.  The 26MP model will be used a lot more for sports stuff (assuming you dont already have a 1DX in your collection)...

That said, still not sure it is a wise move to put anything below a 1 series level AF system in the new 5D(s)...

You are right. Putting something below 1D AF into 5D body is not so wise now - and this is also a marketing thing. And I agree with you split :) Makes just more sense to me then specs that were posted.

IF this is true then I can see new 5D III below 3000, maybe even at 2500 USD/euros. I'm not comparing it to D800 - there is NOTHING to compare - but ask yourself what you can get for the same same price :) I really wanted Canon to offer us something fresh and not just sticking some stuff together that "might" work/satisfy.

As for specs:
- those 26.4 Mpx looks somehow strange - new sensor ?! This just adds R&D costs. And they just can easily "justify" price above 3000 USD.
- 19 AF points - I was hoping for better than 9 AF points with wider spread (1DX AF just sounded a little too good) and with usable outer points.
- as for FPS: I'm really hoping for something above 6.5 fps. It will push this body closer to 7D in terms of FPS specs.
- radio flash triggering: wake up ! That just won't happen due to different standards/channels around the world and I really don't think that there will be "regional" versions.

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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 09:00:30 AM »

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Re: 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 09:03:13 AM »
I don't understand:

5D was once famous for the first with high MP
5DII exactly the same
5DIII would then normally be high MP as well

1DX merges full frame with high fps
You would expect 5DX to do the same: combine ff and high fps

Based on rumors they would do the opposite: not logical to me...

PS: like these specs much less than the previous ones

I agree!  I've been scratching my head since the "split" rumors started wondering if they didn't have them reversed!
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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 09:06:45 AM »
TGIB!  :D
(thank god it's busted)

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Re: *BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?
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