*BUSTED* 5D Mark III & 5D X Specs?

[mathino]

TGIB! 
^{(thank god it's busted)}

definitely

[simonxu11]

Hum,I just wanna say,as a canon fan from China ,I read every piece of news about the successor of 5d2 at Chinese websites for 2 years.What I should say is every (yes,I said every)news was copyed and translated from aboard.Our webs do not have any sources can bring us fresh and independent news. So do not trust them.I rank this for CR0.

Haha, well said! What's ur id in xitek?

[BXL]

5Dx : 26.4mp, 61pt AF , 8 fps High ISO 51.2k- 102.4k,

It would fit into the role of a compact, photojournalist, sub-sports, do everything camera body.

Makes more sense  

Such a 5Dx would cannibalize the sales of 1Dx, thus I don't think it makes sense.

I agree with a split of the 5D series of cameras: one camera (5D III) for landscape, studio and product work. The other camera with a focus towards professional filming.

Getting the 19 point AF instead of a 1 series level AF on the next 5DmkII would be disappointing.

- 19 AF points - I was hoping for better than 9 AF points with wider spread (1DX AF just sounded a little too good) and with usable outer points.

When the 7D arrived, many people I know wanted the 19 point AF of the 7D for their 5D II. Thus Canon would deliver what a lot of people asked for. The AF is one of the main points to make the 5D III different from the 1Dx. That's why I think that such a 19 point AF is more likely than some version of the 1Dx 61 point AF.

[psolberg]

there is not going to be a split. 22MP for the 5DIII/X sounds perfect. Everything about a split is just wish talk from fans.

[marius]

Come on!
A new full frame camera should come in 1 1/2 weeks and not even a CR2?!?
Where are your sources canonrumours?

[crjiro]

i'm still thinking there has to be a cam that is a 5D something that will match and pass the mp of d800.
The 1DX is against the D4. So, there still could be split into two at least in my thimble full of brains. This would
'outgun' the Nikon strategy for price and performance perspective. Thats how we have to look at Canon's outlook. They do just enough to surpass whatever Nikon is doing.

[LetTheRightLensIn]

if they change the AF between the 2 versions it would make more sense.

Exactly, these had to be fake even if they hadn't been found out from before.
I mean let me see they put the worse action AF and low fps on the 22MP camera and the top action AF on the 45MP body? Come on, ridiculous from the start. Plus they still had the silly thing where the X version goes to the high MP body that has nothing to do with the 7D when Canon says X means cross between (ala 7D+5D2).

So if you want to send in fake rumors and make a big splash at least try to be logical about what specs and which name goes with what....

(OTOH, ridiculous spec lists like this do make it easy to separate some of the chaff from the wheat.)

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I don't understand:

5D was once famous for the first with high MP
5DII exactly the same
5DIII would then normally be high MP as well

1DX merges full frame with high fps
You would expect 5DX to do the same: combine ff and high fps

Based on rumors they would do the opposite: not logical to me...

PS: like these specs much less than the previous ones

Exactly, whatever jokers constantly try to feed in fake specs lists for god knows what reason aren't even trying (although I guess that is sort of a good thing since it makes most of them so easy to blow off as garbage).

[LetTheRightLensIn]

When the 7D arrived, many people I know wanted the 19 point AF of the 7D for their 5D II. Thus Canon would deliver what a lot of people asked for. The AF is one of the main points to make the 5D III different from the 1Dx. That's why I think that such a 19 point AF is more likely than some version of the 1Dx 61 point AF.

Yes, people asked for that.... THREE years ago. At this point in time, and needing to last until 2015 or so, 7D AF in it would be lame, especially since the center point arguably isn't even as good as the one in the 5D2 for some things!

[kpk1]

The 5D III (or 5Ds) should be the studio/landscape cam. That was the 5D line designed for. An AF with less then 19 points is logical.
A 5D X should be the sportier version: a 22-26 mpx, better AF (19 cross  points or 1Ds3 AF dunno) and better ISO.
I worte it many times, even if they put 61 points AF in this body from the 1D X they can put big limitations in other aspects, and there you have two roads for both lines. Think at the buffer, or fps, or the advanced menu for the AF. They can enable limits in every aspect.
Canon's strategy with 3 FF bodies it's flexible than Nikon's. Nikon doesn't have a D4 sensor in a D800 body.

[jdavis37]

Rumor discussions are alrways interesting to see the posts between those who want more advancement than Canon will provide and those who will rationalize whatever decision Canon will make. Not sure where I sit in those 2 instances.

I have a 7D that I am overall happy with. That said, in recent years Nikon has shown it is possible to build a $3000 USD camera body with many of the advanced features of the flagship. The D800 departs somewhat in that is has 36+ MP versus the D4's 16 but shares many other things. If it could deliver 6 fps I might be giving it some thought though I don't have to have that many MP's.

At some point Canon hopefully will get the 5D bodies on same playing field as the D700/800. A 7D AF system would be "ok" but definitely would be disappointing at this point on time. My biggest complaint about my 7D AF is the inability to spot meter off any Af point except for the center. I doubt we'll see majoy advancements in terms of improved IS)/detail balances in crop sensors anytime soon. Comparing the Nikon D7000 directly against the 7D shows little if any real differences leading me to believe going with bigger glass and 20-26 MP in a FF sensor is where I will get the clean detailed good DR ISO1600 I'd like for shooting birds. I can give up pixel density and shoot with longer glass as long as the PQ improves. My 7D is pretty decent there but if I am to drop $3K I want a real improvement.

At same time i'd like to see Canon more like Nikon in the AF department. I certainly do not expect a 5D at $3K to be 8 fps but 5 or 6 would be nice. A slightly dumbed down 1D-X or even a MkIV AF would be good. A 7D type system IF the sensor were simply GREAT might be acceptable but the world is round and competition via Nikon suggests a better AF should be expected.

I do not expect a near 1D-X for $3K. The X is for a different type of shooter. But a 5D MkIII whose ISO is perhaps not any better than the D800 with an AF like the 7D would be a failure in my opinion. Am hoping Canon gets back to the 20D days where it produced a body that said " Buy Me I'm worth it" compared to competition. This time the competition for me is my 7D. I would love a 5DMKIII with 1d LIKE AF even if MkIV or a slower 1D_X and a truly useable ISO1600 for capturing bird feathers without loss of detail or color. Will be watching! And no I am not threatening to jump off the cliff to buy nikon. If Canon does not produce something a lot better I'll happily continue with my 7D and save for the 200-400F4L! My 5 cents worth on this one:)

[LetTheRightLensIn]

The D800 departs somewhat in that is has 36+ MP versus the D4's 16 but shares many other things. If it could deliver 6 fps I might be giving it some thought though I don't have to have that many MP's.

It does. It is 4fps in FF mode. 5fps in 1.2x crop mode. And, with grip, 6fps in DX 1.5x crop mode.

[moreorless]

It would seem to make more sense for the rumoured 22MP body to have some kind of 1Dish AF system considering the rest of its specs are reasonabley similar to that line.

A high megapixel body seems like it would be aimed mostly at landscape and studio use though so does it really need the same AF system? a smaller number of widely spaced and accurate rather than fast points seems like it would be better suited to such a camera.

[marekjoz]

I still think the final MP count (so the resolution) will be somehow linked to video capabilites. As in 5d2 and 7d what they get from sensor is not quite HD, so now I think they'd like to give more quality having some less PP computing power used. So they could maybe get closer to 60 fps. It would probably require some integer miltiplier of 1080 when talking about vertical sensor resolution. What they could make would be cropping some FF surface to some known equivalent like aps-h or aps-c. Therefore 45MP seems quite fine for me as it would allow to take 4k video from each second line of image cropped to aps-h (like mentioned on picture from exhibition). 28MP ot the other hand is also sweet as it allows to achieve 4k video from FF taking each second line.

[c-law]

Ever since the rumours of the 5D split and the announcement of the 1Dx there have been rumours of their split being a 5D Mark III and a 5Dx. The rumours have always tended towards these type of specs with the III being a lower MP and the X being the high MP beast. That never made sense to me as the Mark II impressed so much on the photography front by being a high MP FF that rivalled the 1Ds and the X was emphasised as keeping the MP low for amazing IQ.

So it seems to me that in the world of fake rumours, people have just been building on other fake rumours whenever they release specs like these.

If I see specs that have a high MP studio cam called the Mark III and a what we have all assumed would be the 3D in a 5Dx then I might start thinking it's real.

Chris