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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2018, 09:42:49 AM »
Someone mentioned filter size. I wonder (on the new 2.8 ) if it will go up from 77 to 82? This might be a reason NOT to get it, as my three main lenses (including non_IS 70-200 2.8 ) are all 77 now.

True, but it would also be more consistent with the other f/2.8 zooms at 82mm (16-35 III and 24-70 II).  The 16-35 f/4 IS, 24-70 f/4 IS and 24-105 f/4 IS II all use 77mm filters, so I'm also wondering if the 70-200 f/4 IS replacement will also use 77mm filters...

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2018, 09:42:49 AM »

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2018, 10:30:37 AM »
Someone mentioned filter size. I wonder (on the new 2.8 ) if it will go up from 77 to 82? This might be a reason NOT to get it, as my three main lenses (including non_IS 70-200 2.8 ) are all 77 now.

Could happen.  Then all the latest top of the line 16-35 2.8 / 24-70 2.8 / 70-200 2.8 lenses would be 82mm.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2018, 10:49:40 AM »


I recently got rid of my 70-200 vii and I feel it was a great decision, when you are at 200 you wish you are at 300 or more and when you are at 70 you wish you were wider. <snip>

Ahem...that's why I have other lenses too....
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2018, 11:41:37 AM »
While I have no doubt about the real improvements we may see in the next generation of this lens, I will find it hard to muster enthusiasm for what will be a near $3000 lens if Nikon pricing is any guide.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2018, 11:46:17 AM »
The 70-200 2.8 IS II is hard to beat for photo quality as-is. I suspect Canon will be producing this as a lighter lens as they have done with the big whites - weight is the only "flaw" I can find with the vII.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2018, 12:32:57 PM »
While I have no doubt about the real improvements we may see in the next generation of this lens, I will find it hard to muster enthusiasm for what will be a near $3000 lens if Nikon pricing is any guide.

Or Sony.  That's just the going rate for a pro 70-200/2.8 now.  If Canon sells it for much cheaper, they're just leaving money on the table.

On the bright side, the II is an excellent lens, and for all the people who want one, a used II will go for another $100-$200 cheaper than the current prices as people who have to have the new color of paint run out and upgrade :D

I will probably upgrade mine; but I will wait for them to go on sale.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2018, 12:35:17 PM »
While I have no doubt about the real improvements we may see in the next generation of this lens, I will find it hard to muster enthusiasm for what will be a near $3000 lens if Nikon pricing is any guide.

Canon has higher production volumes of these lenses, one would presume, so they often come in under Nikon and Sony's often preposterous initial pricing.  Whether they choose to do that or not (i.e. leave money on the table) remains to be seen.

I see this lens -- depending on if there is some exclusive new tech onboard -- dropping in around $2500... which is what I believe the Mk II originally went for.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2018, 12:35:17 PM »

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2018, 01:21:01 PM »
While I have no doubt about the real improvements we may see in the next generation of this lens, I will find it hard to muster enthusiasm for what will be a near $3000 lens if Nikon pricing is any guide.

Canon has higher production volumes of these lenses, one would presume, so they often come in under Nikon and Sony's often preposterous initial pricing.  Whether they choose to do that or not (i.e. leave money on the table) remains to be seen.

I see this lens -- depending on if there is some exclusive new tech onboard -- dropping in around $2500... which is what I believe the Mk II originally went for.

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Maybe he means Canadian dollar -- the Sony/Nikon are about $2,500 USD, and a little over $3k CAD?

The II in Canada retails around CAD $2200 during the Canon lens sales that go on and off for around half the year. 

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2018, 02:52:08 PM »
*awsome* !!!

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2018, 04:59:47 PM »
When is the new Canon DSLR with IBIS coming ?  :-\

Next week, GUARANTEED. A doozie OF a camera. CR4


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Harry is the guy working on that. Just to let you know, a week after the first rendition the Mark II will be announced.
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2018, 05:01:57 PM »
How many versions will they make of this one until they finally make a usable 50mm 1.2 ?

It's difficult to focus correctly on close distances and wide open. Even the contrast AF does it wrong.

All alternatives don't do it for me.

My money is on a 50mm f/1.4L... someday. No f/1.2L, ever.
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2018, 05:03:15 PM »
Well it looks like any hope of a new mount for mirrorless is dead.

Why the hope for a new mount?
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2018, 05:07:17 PM »
That's what struck me too. Full Frame Mirrorless will be an EF mount

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2018, 05:07:17 PM »

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2018, 05:11:21 PM »
Well it looks like any hope of a new mount for mirrorless is dead.

Why "hope" ?

Do you want to have all your existing lenses obsoleted and buy new? Little longer ones to compensate for the shorter flange distance of the new camera??? did you do the math how much this would cost you? i did... :(

You do realise there will be an adaptor for EF glass? Canon won't likely produce EF-M versions of their long EF glass, they'll just let you use the adaptor with it.

Of course i do, just the question is, will we want to have a lens lineup which will have to be adapted for ever or will they make a decission one day, to move mirrorless completely. If so, it will make no sense to build even long lenses with EF mount but to build them for mirrrorless. If not, most lenses need to be EF, except the ones which benefit from shorter flange distance, so the mirrorless will be the niche market with only few native lenses, like EF-M is now.

maybe there will be a conversion service for the more worthfull lenses?

If there is a change in mounts, the new mount will accept EF and whatever the new thing is. Or, maybe Canon will offer a mount change service (doubtful). Personally, I don't think the mount will be a new one. If it is, I wouldn't care. Happy to keep using a DSLR and my current lenses. Heck, the DSLR will never completely go away in our lifetimes. At least not in mine.
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2018, 05:13:03 PM »

Of course i do, just the question is, will we want to have a lens lineup which will have to be adapted for ever or will they make a decission one day, to move mirrorless completely.

maybe there will be a conversion service for the more worthfull lenses?

Once they stop selling DSLRs with EF mount then yes, they'll phase out the EF lens range. But even at the most optimistic that'll be five years away, more likely ten, possibly more.

Conversion service? An adaptor and some hot glue? :)

Adapter and hot glue.  ;D That's funny Ralph!!!
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2018, 05:13:03 PM »