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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2018, 08:56:15 AM »
Any bets on resale value of the 2.8 II? I cannot see myself upgrading and since I rarely use it, wonder if it's best to sell asap. However, given recent lens releases, I could see this lens being quite a bit more expensive than the II.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2018, 08:56:15 AM »

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2018, 10:22:43 AM »
Any bets on resale value of the 2.8 II? I cannot see myself upgrading and since I rarely use it, wonder if it's best to sell asap. However, given recent lens releases, I could see this lens being quite a bit more expensive than the II.

The drop in resale in the 2.8 II will probably be smaller than the premium that you would pay for the 2.8 III if you buy it in the first year that it is released compared to when it is available with rebates/street price/refurb store. 

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2018, 10:25:54 AM »
I know it is not a popular idea here, but wouldn't a mirrorless system with an MF sensor allow Canon to "protect" the EF legacy a little longer?
Do you realize that only TS-E lenses have an image circle big enough for a medium format?

Writing wishlists isn't bound to physical realities. My wish is a 1200mm F4 lens with 77mm filter thread, it should be really compact for my Himalaya hiking, but what luck, mirrorless will be the answer of all questions.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2018, 10:43:06 AM »
Any bets on resale value of the 2.8 II? I cannot see myself upgrading and since I rarely use it, wonder if it's best to sell asap. However, given recent lens releases, I could see this lens being quite a bit more expensive than the II.

You could go to canonpricewatch.com and see what happened to the 24-70 f/2.8L I and 16-35 f/2.8L II after their replacements came out.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2018, 11:47:23 AM »
Any bets on resale value of the 2.8 II? I cannot see myself upgrading and since I rarely use it, wonder if it's best to sell asap. However, given recent lens releases, I could see this lens being quite a bit more expensive than the II.

You could go to canonpricewatch.com and see what happened to the 24-70 f/2.8L I and 16-35 f/2.8L II after their replacements came out.

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Spoiler: Not a whole lot happened.
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2018, 11:54:42 AM »
Any bets on resale value of the 2.8 II? I cannot see myself upgrading and since I rarely use it, wonder if it's best to sell asap. However, given recent lens releases, I could see this lens being quite a bit more expensive than the II.

You could go to canonpricewatch.com and see what happened to the 24-70 f/2.8L I and 16-35 f/2.8L II after their replacements came out.

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Spoiler: Not a whole lot happened.

I misspoke.  You should look at CPW around the dates that the lower 'numbered' version is discontinued.  If there is magic that will happen with the price, that's when it may happen.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2018, 01:17:03 PM »
I wonder if the new 70-200 2.8 will be as much of a leap as the 24-105 II was
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2018, 01:17:03 PM »

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2018, 01:33:46 PM »
I wonder if the new 70-200 2.8 will be as much of a leap as the 24-105 II was

"Leap" = nice.  [cue laugh track]

Zero chance, IMHO.  This is a flagship piece of kit Canon has never "rev'd for the sake of rev'ing".  To my knowledge, other than some bokeh fanatics feeling some magic was lost since the original IS version, these sorts of lenses consistently step forward performance-wise. 

As I said earlier in the thread, Canon typically doesn't 'II' or 'III' an L lens without it being a big step forward.  The 24-105 f/4L IS II is very much the exception to the rule.

And this one -- a staple pro instrument -- I'd bet good money on it being stellar to the point that Mk II people pull out their CCs and snap one up.  In no uncertain terms, I'm bullish on this one.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2018, 03:12:16 PM »
I wonder if the new 70-200 2.8 will be as much of a leap as the 24-105 II was

"Leap" = nice.  [cue laugh track]

Zero chance, IMHO.  This is a flagship piece of kit Canon has never "rev'd for the sake of rev'ing".  To my knowledge, other than some bokeh fanatics feeling some magic was lost since the original IS version, these sorts of lenses consistently step forward performance-wise. 

As I said earlier in the thread, Canon typically doesn't 'II' or 'III' an L lens without it being a big step forward.  The 24-105 f/4L IS II is very much the exception to the rule.

And this one -- a staple pro instrument -- I'd bet good money on it being stellar to the point that Mk II people pull out their CCs and snap one up.  In no uncertain terms, I'm bullish on this one.

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Am I the only one having a VERY difficult time thinking about what exactly they could improve upon with the existing 70-200 f/2.8, that would be stellar enough to rate ditching the current one and buying a new one?

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2018, 03:29:56 PM »
Am I the only one having a VERY difficult time thinking about what exactly they could improve upon with the existing 70-200 f/2.8, that would be stellar enough to rate ditching the current one and buying a new one?

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No, but I'd coach to not overly focus on IQ.  (That should improve, but yes, many folks here doubt it will be a big improvement.)

It could get lighter.  The IS could get more effective or quieter.  CPLs could be a lot easier to manipulate with the hood attached.  It could have the mythical USM / STM or USM / Nano USM rocker switch some videographers have dreamed of for L lenses.  They could jazz up the blade design for better sunstars.  It could come in black.   :o

Who knows?  Let's wait and see.

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2018, 03:33:31 PM »
Am I the only one having a VERY difficult time thinking about what exactly they could improve upon with the existing 70-200 f/2.8, that would be stellar enough to rate ditching the current one and buying a new one?

C

Or perhaps put another way, perhaps there are non-trivial groups of people who won't touch the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II for a very specific reason -- it's too heavy, ring USM and IS noise doesn't play well for video, MFD is still too far for some wedding applications (I'm competely riffing here), etc.

Perhaps this rev of the 70-200 will eliminate those reasons not to buy it?

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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2018, 06:25:05 PM »
Am I the only one having a VERY difficult time thinking about what exactly they could improve upon with the existing 70-200 f/2.8, that would be stellar enough to rate ditching the current one and buying a new one?

C

Or perhaps put another way, perhaps there are non-trivial groups of people who won't touch the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II for a very specific reason -- it's too heavy, ring USM and IS noise doesn't play well for video, MFD is still too far for some wedding applications (I'm competely riffing here), etc.

Perhaps this rev of the 70-200 will eliminate those reasons not to buy it?

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OR.......

There is always the possibility that they are making a whole bunch of very minor changes.... it could be that a special glass is hard to find and gets replaced with a newer element, newer coatings, a stop better IS, more exact machining to get rid of inconsistencies between units and/or to make assembly and testing easier.....

The better machining alone could be enough economic reason to come out with an updated version, and while you are at it, throw in the latest components, glass, and coatings....
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2018, 06:43:10 PM »
While the 70-200G is ok, the 70-200GM is stellar so I'm glad to hear about an L2.8III
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2018, 07:00:32 PM »
I have the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II version....on a 5DIV. The lens is amazing...I just cannot imagine needing more....Actually less busy bokeh would be nice..but I will take the sharpness instead....its GREAT!!!!
I guess we will see what all the fuss is about!   I am guessing that this new lens is for the large files of the 5DR and maybe some new huge megapixel camera that is coming. Mirrorless...I HOPE!!!!!  :D :D :D
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2018, 07:42:14 PM »
Is it not more likely that the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM (non IS) gets updated? It's a 1995 design compared to the IS II being a 2010 lens.

Ah..that may be the answer to the mystery. I just can't see Canon replacing the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II.  Just does not make any sense to me.
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Re: New Canon 70-200mm Lenses Coming in Early June [CR3]
« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2018, 07:42:14 PM »