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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2018, 06:29:51 PM »
The non IS 70-200 2.8 is better than the version I IS and bested only by version II. So it has no REAL need for update. I had bought one almost immediately when it was available. Back in the 90s it was my first zoom lens with IQ similar to a fixed lens (judging from b/w darkroom enlargements). Unfortunately it was in a bag that has been stolen.   

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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2018, 06:29:51 PM »

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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2018, 08:22:33 PM »
Since these new certifications seem to be a bit nebulous, I thought I would clarify:

3045C005AA = EF-M 32 f/1.4
2959C005AA = EF-M 53 f/1.8 IS
2963C005AA = EF-M 63 f/2.8 IS Macro
2972C005AA = EF-M 17-50 f/4.0 IS

There is no bias inherent in these predictions, other than the fact that I really really want these lenses. Then, by all means, Canon may release the M5 mkii...

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2018, 09:05:44 PM »
Since these new certifications seem to be a bit nebulous, I thought I would clarify:

3045C005AA = EF-M 32 f/1.4
2959C005AA = EF-M 53 f/1.8 IS
2963C005AA = EF-M 63 f/2.8 IS Macro
2972C005AA = EF-M 17-50 f/4.0 IS

There is no bias inherent in these predictions, other than the fact that I really really want these lenses. Then, by all means, Canon may release the M5 mkii...

Nice list.   A constant aperture zoom -- even f/4 IS -- is a great add if it ever happened, especially if it gets Nano USM.  (Hell, EF-S would love that as well.)

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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2018, 02:28:03 AM »
I really love to see a EF-M lens like 16-55mm 2.8 IS.
This really changes the EF-M line up. 

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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2018, 03:53:39 AM »
Nice list.   A constant aperture zoom -- even f/4 IS -- is a great add if it ever happened, especially if it gets Nano USM.  (Hell, EF-S would love that as well.)

I am wondering if there's a good reason why Nano-USM hasn't hit EF-M yet, and maybe it uses more power than STM?
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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2018, 05:53:56 AM »
Wondering if the 180mm Macro is due for a refresh? Some new coatings, revised innards and I'm pretty sure a new model could comfortably outperform the current.

But I can't see any reason to upgrade the MP-E65 thugh. What a phenomenal lens
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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2018, 08:01:40 AM »
But I can't see any reason to upgrade the MP-E65 thugh. What a phenomenal lens

Well, according to Canon UK the lens is no longer in production and once stock is gone, it's gone.  Or at least that's what they told me at the Photography Show this year.

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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2018, 08:01:40 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2018, 09:54:22 AM »
Wondering if the 180mm Macro is due for a refresh? Some new coatings, revised innards and I'm pretty sure a new model could comfortably outperform the current.

But I can't see any reason to upgrade the MP-E65 thugh. What a phenomenal lens

I can definitely see a reason to update the MP-E. I’d like it to have a greater magnification range, going from .5x to 5x. Often I’m pressed as to whether I should take a 100 macro or the MP-E if I think I might run into something large, like a lot of beetles.

If Canon made an MP-E 105mm f2.8L .5x-5x I would die a very happy man  ;D
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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2018, 11:32:03 AM »
But I can't see any reason to upgrade the MP-E65 thugh. What a phenomenal lens

Well, according to Canon UK the lens is no longer in production and once stock is gone, it's gone.  Or at least that's what they told me at the Photography Show this year.
Thats a real shame which means once the stock is gone(like with 50mm macro), Canon shooters will have to rely on 3rd party makers for high mag macro lenses. In this case its Laowa with 2 lenses 25mm and 100mm or 60mm Macro.

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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2018, 12:01:48 PM »
Not sure if people caught this update (translated via Google, so it may be a bit fuzzy). 

Nokish ita is quick to point out that it may be less than three other lenses if one of them comes in multiple colors.

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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2018, 12:27:12 PM »
Perhaps two colors?  An EF-M 32 f/1.4 in black and silver?

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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2018, 02:41:56 PM »
But I can't see any reason to upgrade the MP-E65 thugh. What a phenomenal lens

Well, according to Canon UK the lens is no longer in production and once stock is gone, it's gone.  Or at least that's what they told me at the Photography Show this year.
Thats a real shame which means once the stock is gone(like with 50mm macro), Canon shooters will have to rely on 3rd party makers for high mag macro lenses. In this case its Laowa with 2 lenses 25mm and 100mm or 60mm Macro.

Which is a huge shame given that all of the Laowas are manual aperture. Looking through an f/2.8 lens gets dark enough above 2x, can’t even imagine trying to hit perfect focus (or even see!) at f/10-f/13.
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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2018, 02:55:27 PM »
I can definitely see a reason to update the MP-E. I’d like it to have a greater magnification range, going from .5x to 5x.

You're comparing totally unlike lenses. The MPE-65 doesn't work like a normal macro lens, so trying to make it into one would be a disaster.  If anything I'd have an even narrower magnification range than before if it increased overall sharpness and image quality.
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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2018, 02:55:27 PM »

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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2018, 09:11:39 PM »


You're comparing totally unlike lenses. The MPE-65 doesn't work like a normal macro lens, so trying to make it into one would be a disaster.  If anything I'd have an even narrower magnification range than before if it increased overall sharpness and image quality.

I’m ok with that, just make it go from .5x-3x for all I care. I don’t want infinity focus, just want .5x. And you are right that it doesn’t behave like a normal macro, but it can definitely be used as one.
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Re: Four More Unreleased Canon Lenses Have Shown Up for Certification
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 05:53:33 AM »
if you need a non IS 100mm 0.5x macro, you can get a non-IS macro for about 250$ used. The MP-e needs a tripod, macro rail and macro flash (at least for use at higher magnifications). If all this euipment is in the bag, a additional 100mm macro will not need to much space, beside the fact that it can use the same flash.

Already at 1x magnification most subjects benefit from focus stacking, which make the use of tripod and macro rail favorable.

Fantastic would be, if they could do a f2.0 5x macro, or 8x even? This, because a 5x/2.8 is above the diffraction limit for today's cameras already.

I would not sacrify high magnification range for low magnification.

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« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 05:53:33 AM »