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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 06:47:54 PM »
I guess the “out” is the unqualified “ultra high sensitivity”?

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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 06:47:54 PM »

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2018, 08:26:12 PM »
I would be willing to bet this will go on their mirrorless camera, M5 Mark XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 11:05:09 PM »
I wonder which satellite this is used in?

Of course, a satellite is a mirrorless camera.  Somewhat larger than desirable for pocket use, but none the less, mirrorless.  (who says mirrorless is only for size)

OTOH, it doesn't have interchangeable lenses, so it's a Powershot.


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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2018, 11:59:38 PM »
4k full sensor readout plz

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2018, 09:26:45 AM »
Of course, a satellite is a mirrorless camera.

Lol.


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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2018, 10:45:33 AM »
It's not nearly mirrorless, it hat 18 mirrors. But wait, this are lens mirrors not a camera mirror (which is what matters). It's great for all, it has a relatively compact camera. And for those who need it for fu**ing, where size matters, it's specially great  ;D

an what's the best, it's really exclusive, not every common sheikh can afford one. This needs a nice oil gusher running quite a while

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2018, 03:53:49 PM »
I wonder what a piece of glass for that thing costs :)

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2018, 03:53:49 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2018, 04:18:36 PM »
digital Kirlian photography anyone  :D

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2018, 07:28:37 PM »
If this was built under contract for some industrial or government user, then Canon probably earned a profit on the endeavor. If it was built using R&D funds, then there was probably (IMO) a better place to spend the money. But now they have some bragging rights for whatever that is worth. Obviously a very small market for this sensor.
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2018, 07:37:48 PM »
This is so going into HarryFilm’s new Medium format rig

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Well now that you said it, I CAN MOST DEFINITELY SUGGEST TO YOU that indeed Canon is looking how they would layout multiple Medium format sensors of DCI 8k (8192 x 4380 pixels) of 56mm x 42mm size. Here is the below graphic used for suggested layout of the chips on 300mm silicon wafers. The aspect ratio difference of 1.89 imaging photosite vs the actual 4:3 sensor aspect ratio is PROBABLY due to the in-between-lines-of-photosites being using for DPAF or specialty edge detection or OTHER colour-filters photosites (i.e. extra Yellow channel?)

Cost of course is about $3500 to $4000 US per chip BUT they could get it down to $2500 US with a bit of extra quality control technology applied to the manufacturing process!

In case you're wondering, my sources say that the new Canon MF sensor's physical size is indeed 56mm x 42mm BUT that the imaging photosite aspect ratio of 8192 by 4380 is due to photosites used by a DPAF-like mechanism and/or a POSSIBLE extra colour channel being added for better colours AND/OR used for better low-light performance (i.e. NO colour filter on photosite for PURE luminance information capture!)

I just don't know all the specifics yet!
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2018, 09:28:58 PM »
But wait, this are lens mirrors not a camera mirror (which is what matters).

My post was tongue in cheek, but regardless the way JWST selects focus is unlike a mirrorless camera in that pointing is achieved by a separate unit than those used for imaging. It’s more like a rangefinder.

Here is the below graphic used for suggested layout of the chips on 300mm silicon wafers. The aspect ratio difference of 1.89 imaging photosite vs the actual 4:3 sensor aspect ratio is PROBABLY due to the in-between-lines-of-photosites being using for DPAF or specialty edge detection or OTHER colour-filters photosites (i.e. extra Yellow channel?)

In between lines used for DPAF? Yah no.

The best way to explain weirdness in that graphic is that the guy who fired up google slides to lay it out isn’t very detail oriented. Couldn’t even bother to spell check!
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 10:00:50 PM »
It makes the Rebel look Presidential.
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 10:50:44 PM »
Guys, this was announced in 2010.

https://global.canon/en/news/2010/aug31e.html
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2018, 07:04:36 AM »
It's not nearly mirrorless, it hat 18 mirrors. But wait, this are lens mirrors not a camera mirror (which is what matters). It's great for all, it has a relatively compact camera. And for those who need it for fu**ing, where size matters, it's specially great  ;D

an what's the best, it's really exclusive, not every common sheikh can afford one. This needs a nice oil gusher running quite a while

This raises the question, if you mount a mirror lens on a mirorless camera, does it cease to be mirrorless? *Robot brain explodes*
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2018, 07:51:04 AM »
It's not nearly mirrorless, it hat 18 mirrors. But wait, this are lens mirrors not a camera mirror (which is what matters). It's great for all, it has a relatively compact camera. And for those who need it for fu**ing, where size matters, it's specially great  ;D

an what's the best, it's really exclusive, not every common sheikh can afford one. This needs a nice oil gusher running quite a while

This raises the question, if you mount a mirror lens on a mirorless camera, does it cease to be mirrorless? *Robot brain explodes*

A good question to reflect on.....
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2018, 07:51:04 AM »