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Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« on: July 05, 2018, 08:59:16 AM »
Canon will release two full frame mirrorless cameras before the middle of 2019, the first one to come will be the “flagship” model for this new line of cameras. As reported earlier, this camera will sport a 30.4mp sensor that could be closely related to the EOS 5D Mark IV.

The second full frame mirrorless body will be a lower megapixel count. We’ve seen mentions of various pixel counts, which isn’t unusual, as test cameras can come with a wide array of different image sensors. The most likely pixel count will be around 24mp, we do not believe they’ll be using the EOS 6D Mark II’s 26.2mp sensor, or even a modified version of it.

Both cameras will shoot 4K, with the “flagship” model providing the best video features.

We’re also told that there’s a possibility of a removable EVF on one of the cameras, which we think would be reserved for the lower end full frame mirrorless camera.

We’re told that there are currently no plans to release a camera that will compete directly with Sony’s high ISO capable Alpha a7s II.

What about the mount?

We cannot get a straight answer about this. We’ve been told everything from a new mount to EF mount. One trusted source told us that the full frame mirrorless camera and EF mount problem has a “sexy” solution. We’re not sure what that means, but it’s the best news we’ve received on the topic.

When are they coming?

Both camera bodies will be shipping by mid 2019, but the exact announcement date for the first camera is unknown at this time.

What will they be called?

For the moment we only have codenames, but “EOS M1” has yet to be used by Canon. Other than that, no naming suggestions have been sent our way.

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Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« on: July 05, 2018, 08:59:16 AM »

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 09:08:50 AM »
If it will mount EF lenses and sync flash at 1/1000 I'm interested.  Everything else is a bonus.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2018, 09:38:29 AM »

Another year. Then several months to see test results. With other delays (quite common), it could be a year and a half. You need the patience of Job for this.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2018, 09:40:46 AM »
I wonder why they limit the higher pixel count body to "only" 30 mp. does it have something to do with the dual pixel system?

I dont understand why they, as it seems, only have a difference of 6mp between their "enthusias" and "pro" modell compared to nikon and sony where it is 24mp - 40+ mp

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2018, 09:43:35 AM »
By mid-2019 the 5D4’s sensor is going to be looking a touch outdated. With Sony consolidating their position and Nikon soon to re-enter the arena, Canon need a strong entry into full-frame mirrorless to generate some buzz.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 09:50:28 AM »
It's not said of course it will be the same sensor (considering 2019 is 3 years after 5D4 launch; I would assume they've learned something from the 6D II). Might be an updated version or even a whole new one.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 09:50:44 AM »
By the time these hit, everyone will own a Sony. But not to worry because it will be spec'ed well below the Sony and priced well above it.
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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 09:50:44 AM »

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 09:53:44 AM »

<p><strong>What about the mount?</strong></p>
<p>We cannot get a straight answer about this. We’ve been told everything from a new mount to EF mount. One trusted source told us that the full frame mirrorless camera and EF mount problem has a “sexy” solution. We’re not sure what that means,


Mila Kunis clone carries an adapter for you?

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2018, 10:06:33 AM »
I am so set-up with FF DSLR and Lenses and mirrorless MFT Kit and every lens available...even converted an MFT body to infrared...Got it all covered!  :) GREAT time to be a still photographer.
If Canon comes of with a "completely up-to-date" mirrorless body that takes my existing EF lenses and allows them to work in "all aspects" and as "good or BETTER" than they do now on my 5DIV, then I will buy that body immediately.
If not....oh well. 8)
Honestly...with the history of this company, I am not expecting a whole lot, to be honest.
...but, we will see.....whenever....
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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2018, 10:09:12 AM »
By the time these hit, everyone will own a Sony. But not to worry because it will be spec'ed well below the Sony and priced well above it.

You hope so, otherwise you will have nothing relevant to say.


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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2018, 10:11:55 AM »
Everything we wanted to know, we know now.....
Canikons are just finding the niches in the market.

Sony FF will have the largest portfolio of irl bodies.

Leica FF will stay the best IQ

Nikon FF will be to compensate for not having 1.2 lenses on their F mount bodies.

Canon FF will be there leaning on their 30 years old EF lenses line, probably more gadgets like Dual pixel focus and Ghost/Flare correction for NATIVE lenses only.

Canon 2nd FF line will be sans EVF and 35mm F5.6 prime lens. To make as compact as possibly body.

End of the story, since the LP E6N batterie affaire: the Canon 1DX line stays the only one offering 12V to the lens motors of the White's ones.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 10:13:08 AM »

<p><strong>What about the mount?</strong></p>
<p>We cannot get a straight answer about this. We’ve been told everything from a new mount to EF mount. One trusted source told us that the full frame mirrorless camera and EF mount problem has a “sexy” solution. We’re not sure what that means,


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Mila Kunis clone carries the adapter and Jim Beam for you, she also poses if you need a risque model.

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2018, 10:29:17 AM »
If it will mount EF lenses and sync flash at 1/1000 I'm interested. 

Don't you need a leaf shutter in the lens for that to be possible?

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2018, 10:29:17 AM »

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2018, 10:31:29 AM »
Canon will release two full frame mirrorless cameras before the middle of 2019, the first one to come will be the “flagship” model for this new line of cameras. <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/the-full-list-of-unreleased-canon-camera-ids/">As reported earlier</a>, this camera will sport a 30.4mp sensor that could be closely related to the EOS 5D Mark IV.</p>
<p>We cannot get a straight answer about this. We’ve been told everything from a new mount to EF mount. One trusted source told us that the full frame mirrorless camera and EF mount problem has a “sexy” solution. We’re not sure what that means, but it’s the best news we’ve received on the topic.</p>
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I really, really hope it's a new short-flange mirrorless mount. That opens the doors for smaller & lighter glass, and hopefully smaller & lighter bodies.

As to the "sexy solution", maybe that's going to be a weather-sealed EOS EF-to-EOS EF-M adapter with a mirror box and PDAF module tucked inside; it could connect to a detachable pentaprism that would be locked into place over the hotshoe. That would give photographers the option of a pure OVF if they wanted - plus less expensive standard smart adapters will be readily available if all you want/need is an EVF.

I prefer OVF for the time being, and really only envision myself buying a mirrorless body as my primary camera if the EVF is 4+ million dots @ 60+ FPS. But I doubt these first-gen FF Canon mirrorless bodies will be packing those  :(

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2018, 10:32:24 AM »
I do not understand people wanting another mount. It will be kind of optimal only for some fixed wide angle lenses and nothing else.

See a comparison between Canon 5DMkIV and Sony A7RIII all using 24-70 2.8 lenses

https://camerasize.com/compact/#682.286,724.515,ha,t

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Re: Canon's Full Frame Mirorrless Cameras [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2018, 10:32:24 AM »