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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #480 on: February 24, 2012, 05:04:08 PM »
I'm predicting that when the new 590EX is announced with the 5D it will have an MSRP of $700.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #480 on: February 24, 2012, 05:04:08 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #481 on: February 24, 2012, 05:05:30 PM »
And if I'm not mistaken, the 5D2 beat the 1DsIII for image quality, had video, and bunch of other cool stuff, yet it costs $7000+ less.

I think you are mistaken there .... apart from the video and high iso (max 3200) the 1Ds3  is in the field is by far the better camera - it has the pro AF and metering for a start and there is the series 1 weather proofing ...

Brian, re-look at what I said in the context it was stated.  No one said the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds.

Obviously the 1Ds3 is overall a way better camera considering all it's functions.  The context of the statement was in response to another poster who argued that the 5D3 deserved it's high price given what it will be able to do and that to think it should cost $3000 (or less) ignored all it's advanced functions, etc.:

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The only problem I see with that is that Canon said they want to keep the 5D2 in the lineup, and if the 5D3 were only $2500 it seems like no one would buy anymore 5D2's.  The specs aren't that far off from the 1DX and that's a $6k+ camera, I don't see why you would expect it to be $4000 less.

I simply pointed out that the 5D2 outperformed the 1Ds3 in terms of image quality, ISO, and had video features not found in any camera, at a price that was $7000+ less than the 1Ds3.  The poster's logic was flawed in his reasoning when an obvious example of great technology and functionality was previously available for $7k+ less.

Re-read the full posting, I think you'll understand  my point. 


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #482 on: February 24, 2012, 05:11:15 PM »
And if I'm not mistaken, the 5D2 beat the 1DsIII for image quality, had video, and bunch of other cool stuff, yet it costs $7000+ less.

I think you are mistaken there .... apart from the video and high iso (max 3200) the 1Ds3  is in the field is by far the better camera - it has the pro AF and metering for a start and there is the series 1 weather proofing ...

Brian, re-look at what I said in the context it was stated.  No one said the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds.

Obviously the 1Ds3 is overall a way better camera considering all it's functions.  The context of the statement was in response to another poster who argued that the 5D3 deserved it's high price given what it will be able to do and that to think it should cost $3000 (or less) ignored all it's advanced functions, etc.:

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The only problem I see with that is that Canon said they want to keep the 5D2 in the lineup, and if the 5D3 were only $2500 it seems like no one would buy anymore 5D2's.  The specs aren't that far off from the 1DX and that's a $6k+ camera, I don't see why you would expect it to be $4000 less.

I simply pointed out that the 5D2 outperformed the 1Ds3 in terms of image quality, ISO, and had video features not found in any camera, at a price that was $7000+ less than the 1Ds3.  The poster's logic was flawed in his reasoning when an obvious example of great technology and functionality was previously available for $7k+ less.

Re-read the full posting, I think you'll understand  my point.

Sorry i thought that "the 5D2 beat the 1DsIII for image quality" meant that the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds3 and that you were trying to say that the cheaper camera performed better than the expensive one.  8) 8) 8)

Having both the 5D2 and the 1Ds3 I can assure you that at lower ISO (up to 1600) the 5D2 doesn't have the best image quality - which is what I was trying to point out.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 05:15:50 PM by briansquibb »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #483 on: February 24, 2012, 05:12:37 PM »
So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?  ;)

After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.

39MP, 6.5fps, crippled version of 1DX AF
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 07:14:58 PM by LetTheRightLensIn »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #484 on: February 24, 2012, 07:34:39 PM »
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Having both the 5D2 and the 1Ds3 I can assure you that at lower ISO (up to 1600) the 5D2 doesn't have the best image quality - which is what I was trying to point out.

Agreed, in particular ISO 100 on the 1Ds3 still has the best IQ of all Canon cameras. I've had nearly every single one since the 300D to measure it against.

Exciting times ahead with the 1Dx

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #485 on: February 24, 2012, 08:21:09 PM »
absolutely NO mention is made about the sensor' size in the specs.
Could very well be the 7D II.
Anyone think the same?

absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs.   Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?
Canon 7d, 17-55 f2.8 IS, 100mm f2.8 macro, 70-200mm f4L IS , 70-200mm f2.8L IS II, 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS, 10-22mm f3.5-4.5

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #486 on: February 24, 2012, 08:41:05 PM »


absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs.   Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?
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I was actually thinking more along the lines of a super Ginsu knife.....but then it would cost $19.95, and you could double the offer for only $9.95 handing and shipping.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #486 on: February 24, 2012, 08:41:05 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #487 on: February 24, 2012, 10:05:26 PM »
absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs.   Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?


I heard the D800 makes Espresso. I think I'm going to switch to Nikon then.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 10:09:51 PM by D_Rochat »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #488 on: February 24, 2012, 11:52:57 PM »
So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?  ;)

After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.

2MP - Because according to many self proclaimed experts you dont need many pixels as long as they are good ones.
Quad digic 5+ produces a burst speed of 1247.3 images a second AT FULL RESOLUTION! wow...
4 pixel mode - multiple photosites on the sensor used per pixel to produce the ulimate in light sensitivity... ISO 3 x 10 ^8. Can produce 2x2 pixel images noise free in 99.999% darkness!

The new cameras name will be the 5d-WTF and will be available 2012/04/01 at all good Walmart stores...

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #489 on: February 25, 2012, 12:27:28 AM »
I just hope if they are charging $3500 body only, it had better be better than the D800. 

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #490 on: February 25, 2012, 12:39:34 AM »
So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?  ;)

After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.

2MP - Because according to many self proclaimed experts you dont need many pixels as long as they are good ones.
Quad digic 5+ produces a burst speed of 1247.3 images a second AT FULL RESOLUTION! wow...
4 pixel mode - multiple photosites on the sensor used per pixel to produce the ulimate in light sensitivity... ISO 3 x 10 ^8. Can produce 2x2 pixel images noise free in 99.999% darkness!

The new cameras name will be the 5d-WTF and will be available 2012/04/01 at all good Walmart stores...

Finally, some marketing that makes sense.

The next gen will be co created by Apple called iCamera, a .5mp, 1.2 fps burst mode. It will be sold for $10,000, have ilenses that sell for $4000 ea. F8 only aperature making focus a breeze! They will come in a rainbow of colors, touchscreen controls and you must pay 99 cents to view each exposure. Nikon will of course be bankrupt in 3 years time. Chargers, memory cards, printers, their paper and ink, flashes and all accessories will be proprietary and only available through Apple. All retail stores selling the icamera will pay $9,990 per camera and $3,990 per lens.  Justin Bieber will sing the theme song on the commercials and each year, a new camera will make an innovation that's been out for a long time. Photography as a profession will be eliminated, since everyone will own one, even the homeless. Thanks for selling out.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #491 on: February 25, 2012, 02:46:45 AM »
Maybe someone would jump on stage and shout "Yo Canon, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but the Nikon D800E is the best prosumer camera of all time.... OF ALL TIME"    ;)

On a slightly different note:

Nikon: 16 Megapixels is “More Than Enough” for a Camera

That was before the D800 was announced, naturally. ::)
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #492 on: February 25, 2012, 03:03:49 AM »
Maybe someone would jump on stage and shout "Yo Canon, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but the Nikon D800E is the best prosumer camera of all time.... OF ALL TIME"  :-*

On a slightly different note:

Nikon: 16 Megapixels is “More Than Enough” for a Camera

That was before the D800 was announced, naturally.

Dated 13 January 2012.

Hilarious. No doubt its before the D800 was announced, but you'd think a Nikon Europe rep would have known about a MegaPixel monster that was coming right after...

"Whoops"?  ???

+1 to you sir, for making my day
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 03:05:39 AM by D.Sim »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #492 on: February 25, 2012, 03:03:49 AM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #493 on: February 25, 2012, 03:55:29 AM »
if there will be a 7DX as well with an integrated grip, fully-sealed body, etc. etc. to give the former 1D owners a 1.6 crop factor to replace the old APS-H format.

I would happily bludgeon members of my own family into a bloody pulp in order to get my hands on that camera..!

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #494 on: February 25, 2012, 04:06:42 AM »
1D4 has spot as well.
Only if you use the right lens - the 7D has spot with any lens.

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metering linking to AF point

Much like the 7D - although Canon describe the 7D's metering as biased to the AF point in use: but as an ex Nikon user, I can confidently say that it adds up to the same thing.

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the AF locks on SOOO much faster.

Irrelevant if the 7D is as fast as you need it to be - which it is.

The 1D[insert number of choice] users I was shoulder-to-shoulder with here didn't get this shot - and this was with a creaky old 100-400mm too...

Schoolboy error with that shot - it's at 3200 ISO, because I'd forgotten to reset it after shooting a gig the night before.

Still, it made for a nice high shutter speed!

;)
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 04:09:53 AM by KeithR »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #494 on: February 25, 2012, 04:06:42 AM »