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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #195 on: February 22, 2012, 08:46:45 PM »
Replace my 7D with this or as they say back here in my country, eat grass and get the 1DX since the 5D3/X is almost half the price of the 1DX...

Or maybe sell both the 7D and the 1D4 and get two of these...

decisions decisions...

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #195 on: February 22, 2012, 08:46:45 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #196 on: February 22, 2012, 08:49:51 PM »
I'm really quite bummed about the CF/SD bit...I'd much prefer two CF slots, or perhaps a CF slot and an XQD or something capable of SDXC speeds.

I'm guessing this is the price Canon have to pay for releasing a camera that competes more directly with its own flagship than Nikon's crop body.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #197 on: February 22, 2012, 08:51:53 PM »
I really hope they bump AEB up to 7  with +/-3
5 as an absolute minimum though


I second that, HDR is a thing for me now... I think Trey is right that HDR is the way forward, done right that is and not looking like a surreal mess

while I have massive amounts of respect for trey, i am well over the photomatix cookie cutter HDR
I discovered this guy a while ago who has a novel take on it, his stuff has a really well crafted more natural look to it http://goodlight.us/
he even sells his photoshop actions for $20 but he gives all the info to make them yourself for free
its a very interesting read if you are into HDR


Thank you so much! NATURAL HDR is my new journey and gave my 7D it's second wind...finally made me appreciate 8fps whenever I am without the tripod.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #198 on: February 22, 2012, 08:55:46 PM »
for those who don't backup on the spot, it lets you use your current CF cards while buying SD for your new cards and being able to use both

Why would you want to do that?   I have seen way too many dead SD cards and on a client shoot, that would be fatal.    Now if it is XQD I could see that as a progression.  Or perhaps if you can "RAID 1" the cards for backup.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #199 on: February 22, 2012, 09:00:04 PM »
for those who don't backup on the spot, it lets you use your current CF cards while buying SD for your new cards and being able to use both

Why would you want to do that?   I have seen way too many dead SD cards and on a client shoot, that would be fatal.    Now if it is XCD (?) I could see that as a progression.  Or perhaps if you can "RAID 1" the cards for backup.

Not all shoots are for clients.

But a serious question, so SD cards are much more prone to failure than CF?
So far I've lost a total of a single shot (not shoot, shot) using CF cards over six years of sometimes heavy usage, so for regular shooting it hasn't been a worry for me using CF cards.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #200 on: February 22, 2012, 09:05:19 PM »


"I find the CF+SD card choice a bit odd.  IMO, 2 CF slots makes more sense for camera in 5D family.  It makes even more sense to include the new XQD card format - which has size similar to SD, but thickness of CF.   This would be paving the way to use the latest card technology. "
 


This "paving the way" Point is VERY interesting. I'm coming to this from a video point of view and the getting of the info on to the card is the bottleneck. The XQD is fast. Hummmm

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2012, 09:08:08 PM »
i hate that the little lock switches on SD cards break off too easily rendering them completely useless, If they made them without those It might improved the durability of them
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2012, 09:08:08 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2012, 09:22:40 PM »
It's not going to be 22MP... it's not going to be 22MP ... it's not going to be 22MP!  This is nonsensical and makes no sense between the two largest market competitors. 

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2012, 09:30:54 PM »
Strange, I distinctly remembered that the 5DmkII launch price was US$2799 or US$2899 back those 3 years plus ago.   ???

In any case, its not a direct 5D replacement if you consider the features. 

Its somewhat like the difference between the 50D and the 7D at launch and the difference in % between those 2 cameras.  When you actually calculate the % difference, this one is actually less ! 

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2012, 09:47:16 PM »
Unbelievable. I took 3 years to put good but probably old AF to 5d2. Now we gonna pay much more for standard product which should be in offer 3 years ago. Nothing special, nothing great...as always. Now guys from Canon will test their marketing and psychology knowledge to make us extremely happy that the company created a camera that can follow market standards with AF.... 22Mp would be great in nowadays market (pretty enough for me) if they improve ISO and dynamic range. Really hope they will do that. AF presented in rumor should be a standard (maybe with less points), even 3 years ago, not a great improvement. Canon made us think that that is outstanding. NO! It is a standard at present.  I own a lot of lenses from Canon but have no camera (sold 5d2 last week). Now I am just waiting what will come. Decision maker, sell and go with Nikon or stay and buy 5d3. Anyway, doesn't it sound strange for you-competition launches a 36Mpix camera  with probably good ISO, nice dynamic range (should not be worse than d700), very, very good and reliable AF, and "our" Canon will just improve AF in new product in order to follow a kind of market standard (AF that just works in many conditions and accurately hits the target). Can't be! Hope that i am wrong. In other words-I am just confused-why should I stay with Canon, despite the fact that i own 5 lenses? I am just trying to answer the question for myself for several months waiting for new 5D and being a little bit frustrated with 5d2 after my long experience with N.D300. Is that really possible that they will miss a customers expectations so much? If they will, what have they been doing for such a long time? Trying to put several components into one body? Seems strange for me.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2012, 09:59:16 PM »
I'm very excited about this release. Sure $3500 (+grip) is slightly more than I was expecting, but like others mentioned, it'll be a little less once it hits the streets. If it has a decent frame rate, this will be the ultimate "do everything" FF camera, from studio to sports, at around $3k. That's a pretty sexy camera to me. I'm on the edge of my seat with this one and I've got a significant discount lined up that may get me one even cheaper.

Canon could still release a second version that is the MP monster that some really want. Sit tight and see what happens.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2012, 10:05:31 PM »
I don't see that as being the case, with the 5D mk2 vs the D700 Canon offered superior resolution and video while Nikon offered superior AF, build and FPS.

I respectfully disagree. It wasn't like canon wanted to offer superior resolution, they had no other choice as they will never offer pro AF in anything other than 1D series. So canon decided to sacrifice 1Ds sensor to protect their 1D sports market.  If they did it the other way and offered pro AF, pro built, weatherseals in $2500 body, how are they gonna justify their $4500 1D?

Video was added by their marketing as a gimmick and it worked.


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2012, 10:06:48 PM »
I really hope they bump AEB up to 7  with +/-3
5 as an absolute minimum though

I second that, HDR is a thing for me now... I think Trey is right that HDR is the way forward, done right that is and not looking like a surreal mess

Buy 1 series body. Lol, it is not me. That is how it works in canon world.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2012, 10:06:48 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2012, 10:10:56 PM »
Someone might have mentioned it already, but I have to say it: I hate the CF/SD thing. Why not just CF x2?

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2012, 10:11:12 PM »
I really hope they bump AEB up to 7  with +/-3
5 as an absolute minimum though

I second that, HDR is a thing for me now... I think Trey is right that HDR is the way forward, done right that is and not looking like a surreal mess

Buy 1 series body. Lol, it is not me. That is how it works in canon world.

There is always Magic Lantern. It's easier to use then you think. I put it on my 50D just because I wanted to try out the video on it for the heck of it, and was quite impressed with all the other features.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2012, 10:11:12 PM »