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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #465 on: February 24, 2012, 01:12:45 PM »
Good point - rather like the 7D AF is a simplofied version of the 1D4 AF?

Or indeed, the 1D4 is a simplified 7D AF: the 7D might have fewer AF points, but it has features the 1D4 lacks.

Spot AF, anyone?

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1D4 has spot as well. Also more  and better options around expansion points, metering linking to AF point, metering linked to AF points and the AF locks on SOOO much faster.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
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« Reply #466 on: February 24, 2012, 01:21:54 PM »
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What else will 5DIII borrow from 1DX, You suppose ?


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #467 on: February 24, 2012, 01:24:11 PM »
Latest rumor provided by Northlight Images:

"Although the AF in the 5D2 replacement is based on the same sensor layout as the 1D X, it is a 'simplified' version.



http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d3.html


When I said that, somebody denied it coz 61pt is already a CR3..lol

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #468 on: February 24, 2012, 01:25:49 PM »
So many wild speculations.
Curious to see the reactions when the final announcement is there...  :)
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #469 on: February 24, 2012, 01:33:12 PM »

If thats all you want then look at the anti aliasing filter from http://www.mosaicengineering.com/




Nice link, if the new 61pt af is just rebel quality and the fps are not upped much I think this AA filter would make a lot more sense (although the res would still be quite low so a future (and less expensive) 70D might make even more sense), that or the D800 of course hah. (hopefully the new AF will be close to 1DX and the fps 6.9 as rumored though)
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #470 on: February 24, 2012, 01:48:56 PM »
Seriously, we don't know the full extent of what the 5D3 is going to have, but the speculation of differences is:

1 ) 5D3 will sport a 61pt AF and advanced metering system, but will not be the same as the full pro-level AF and metering of the 1Dx

I seriously hope they don't ruin the camera here and put in some million point AF chip that has the same crappy precision, accuracy, tracking, ability to deal with backlighting, etc. that the rebels, xxD and even the 7D has.
I mean come on they are not upping the MP and the D800 is loaded so this is not the time to play more stupid internal segmentation marketing games!! Jeez they have had a decaded to fiddle with AF and you know maybe if they didn't waste money having to create so many different watered down versions and just focused on making one good system that worked well (ok and maybe a cut down one for Rebels) they wouldn't run into 1D3 AF fiascos and all. Nikon doesn't waste resources finding ways to make 30 different versions of crummy AF and allows one to get top AF without having to buy a brick!

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2 ) Will be  much lower shoot rate, approx 7 fps vs. 12 fps of the 1Dx (1Dx also has a 14 fps JPEG burst mode)

I really hope all those 6.9fps are correct. If it is say 4.5fps and with water down AF this thing will be dead in the water.

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3 ) Will have some level of weather sealing, but not have the weather proof pro body of the 1Dx

most probably so

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4 ) Will not have the same level of noise performance at high ISO settings as the 1Dx (1 to 1.5 stops lower performance)

No way. If that is true then it will probably do worse than the 5D2! I doubt it would do more than 1/6th stop worse, if even. It shouldn't unless they majorly messed up or something had to be altered to get top video quality or something.

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5 ) 5D3 looks to have dual cards, CF and SD cards, but the 1Dx has dual CF cards

true

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6 ) 5D3 will likely have a smaller RAW buffer (temp storage of images during shooting as the camera xfers to the storage cards)

hopefully they don't go too far with it though and make it useless

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7 ) 1Dx has a built-in grip, the 5D3 will likely be an optional purchase

100% for sure an optional purchase

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8 ) shutter probably be have a rated duty cycle life lower than the 1Dx
9 ) 5D3 will probably have a few video features the are not in the 1Dx (speculation here, nothing has been reported, it's just a general consensus)

probably

as for additional points:

they will probably leave out the ability to record voice notes along with photos :(

they will probably fail to outline the histogram again so you won't be able to see where it ends unless you are shooting in a lab :(

hopefully they will have the 1DX's, mulit-point MFA for zooms (honestly with how great the D800 is Canon just can't play so many stupid little cripple everything but 1 series to pieces games any more, especially not with the sole 1D body now at $7000)

hopefully they will finally have dribbled out enough AutoISO options to finally give us a working version after a decade (by allowing it to use EC now) although I have my doubts

hopefully they don't go with cheap read out electronics for the 5D3 and have it have ugly banded shadows while (perhaps) fixing the 1DX shadows (the 1Ds3 had less shadow banding than the 5D2), if they do then the D800 will also destroy it for low ISO DR despite having more than 50% more MP.


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #471 on: February 24, 2012, 01:53:21 PM »
So no pro AF then?.. Nikon D800 gets pro af AND pro weather sealing.

I don't see "simplified 1DX AF" and "pro AF" to be mutually exclusive, Ricku - it really depends what "simplified" means.

Good point - rather like the 7D AF is a simplofied version of the 1D4 AF?

I hope that is not what they mean because the 7D AF doesn't perform nearly as well, heck the center point, for stills and even distant object AI Servo, I don't think even does as well as the 5D2.

I fear it now though. Again thinking to the guy who said canon marketing was out of touch and still hasn't gotten it even with this critical 5D next gen release and just everything Canon has done for the last 6 years.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #471 on: February 24, 2012, 01:53:21 PM »

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #472 on: February 24, 2012, 01:58:05 PM »
So many wild speculations.
Curious to see the reactions when the final announcement is there...  :)

It would be interesting, indeed!

If it is priced in line with the 5D line, and competitive (i.e. Lower) compared with the D800, then there would be many happy customers. Most purchases would come from current Canon owners, and perhaps many converting from Nikon. However, if the price is too high (i.e. as suggested by the CR3) then many would be disappointed, and will decide on other options (used 5D2, 7D; or D800 for FF).  So, let's hope that Canon Really wants to sell a lot of the new 5D3's, for everybody's sake!

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #473 on: February 24, 2012, 02:03:49 PM »
So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?  ;)

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #474 on: February 24, 2012, 02:27:16 PM »
It's gone remarkably quiet on the CR front huh.  I hope the specs are right and there is something Tuesday but I can't help feel something is off.

I'm guessing its CR3 because its the same source as the 1DX.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #475 on: February 24, 2012, 02:49:11 PM »
It's gone remarkably quiet on the CR front huh.  I hope the specs are right and there is something Tuesday but I can't help feel something is off.

I'm guessing its CR3 because its the same source as the 1DX.
I wonder if that's partially just business decision? They have the news of the year at the top of their home page right now.  Would you bump it to announce a pocket wizard or lens patent?

I suspect they'll keep that right there unless they get more 5D news.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #476 on: February 24, 2012, 03:08:54 PM »
A very good point.  CR has got to think of it from a business point of view, I bet those ads are getting more clicks than ever.  After all, its all downhill after the announcement.

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #477 on: February 24, 2012, 03:37:07 PM »
If you google "Canon 5DIII rumors" and you go to sites other than CR, they are all quoting CR.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #478 on: February 24, 2012, 03:44:00 PM »
If you google "Canon 5DIII rumors" and you go to sites other than CR, they are all quoting CR.


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #479 on: February 24, 2012, 04:00:58 PM »
If you google "Canon 5DIII rumors" and you go to sites other than CR, they are all quoting CR.


This is a fun link about the 5D3

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-2oQfSPYA


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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« Reply #479 on: February 24, 2012, 04:00:58 PM »