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Which lens will Canon place into the upcoming 5DIII/X?

24/105mm f/4
54 (31%)
24/105mm f/4 II
36 (20.7%)
24/70mm f/2.8
7 (4%)
24/70mm f/2.8 II
54 (31%)
Other
16 (9.2%)
Body Only
7 (4%)

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Voting closed: March 23, 2012, 05:09:44 PM

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5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« on: February 22, 2012, 04:09:44 PM »
Which lens will Canon place into the upcoming 5DIII/X?

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 04:22:58 PM »
I don't think anyone can afford a 5D Mark III + 24-70 Mark II kit ...

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 04:34:28 PM »
With the 24-70II its a 5000 'kit'.  A lot too much expensive for most users vs the actual versions of both togheter.
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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 04:49:27 PM »
Please not the stinkin 24-105 only! (although one kit probably needs to be this since the 24-70 II kit would get to be $$)

I really hope they offer a second kit with the 24-70 II! That might be the only way any of us actually manage to afford the 24-70 II. If they body is coming in at a pricey $3500 and with the 24-70 II above the stratosphere they gotta give us some sort of a break to manage this.



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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 05:53:17 PM »
I think the 24-70 II is a good combo

I'll buy that kit the moment it's out.

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 06:05:33 PM »
I am in the "Other" Category. 

I would love to get a break on a 16-35mm f/2.8 II ...  As a 7D Cropper with the EF-S 10-22mm, thats the first lens I got to trade up from.

A kit 16-35 will never happen from Canon - but if any of the major retailers are watching... that is my wish. 

Beyond that, I want the 24-70 II but I cant absorb that much wallet damage that fast.  Got the 24-105.  Wont buy the older 24-70.
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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 06:15:50 PM »
You forgot option 6  None body only

Given estimated prices in UK 5dIII/X without grip. + 24-70II would be dearer than 1DX.
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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 06:15:50 PM »

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 08:29:15 PM »
You forgot option 6  None body only

Given estimated prices in UK 5dIII/X without grip. + 24-70II would be dearer than 1DX.

Interesting to consider that the D800 seems to be body only, I'd guess because Nikon acknowledge that the 24-120 isnt good enough to make use of the sensor.

That to me seems to be a potential advanatge to Canon since the 24-105 not only outshines the Nikon lens but also seems better suited to a lower resolution/higher ISO body. Price wise a 5D mk3 + 24-105 kit will likely come in a good deal cheaper than a new D800 + 24-70 bought seperately.

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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 05:43:45 AM »
You forgot option 6  None body only

Given estimated prices in UK 5dIII/X without grip. + 24-70II would be dearer than 1DX.

It's true. That really may be an option but I would really like for Canon to give us a nice discount on an L lens. Currently the 24/105mm goes for around $1100 and in the 5D2 kit it works out to $800 - so I am needing that nice $300 discount so that I can put it towards the alleged 590EX that is hopefully coming out soon! (27/28 Feb, CR3)


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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 06:43:38 AM »
anybody out there?!?!

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 07:50:46 AM »
I'd like to see a kit include a prime for once.  Maybe the new 35mm f1.4 L II.   :P

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 07:58:50 AM »
Let's face it:
If Canon can sell dozens of 24-70 Mark II to upgrade-willing people with sufficient funds, why would they give this lens away with the body people would also upgrade to? People will buy both lens and body anyway, at least those who can. The others have to settle with whatever fits their budget.

As a kind of entry-level full-frame kit I don't think this ideal package with the 24-70 Mark II as a kit lens will become a reality. This is why I voted for the 24-105mm to stay the kit lens. As a consequence Canon would not cannibalize their own sales.

I strongly recommend to imagine yourself being in Canon's position. They want to generate more revenue, not less.

Let's go through some example scenarios Canon Product Marketing may be contemplating:
1. Someone owns a crop body plus EF-S lenses. This kind of customer is quite likely to purchase a 5D + 24-105mm kit, if wanting to upgrade to full-frame
2. Someone owns a previous full-frame model and a 24-70 Mark I. This kind of customer may purchase either the new 5D body only or may even be contemplating to pick up the 24-105 as a kit lens, thinking it may be a nice addition for a slightly reduced price.
3. Someone owns a previous 5D and 24-70 Mark I seeking to upgrade both to the newest model. In most cases I expect this kind of customer will eventually spend the money on both the new 5D body and the new 24-70 Mark II lens. There won't be any cheap option to upgrade, if you are in this group, because according to market analysis this will be exactly the group, where Canon expects people to have both a strong desire for upgrades and the necessary funds available.

Sorry in case I may have shattered someone's dreams for an idealized upgrade scenario. I dare say it is not likely to happen.

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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 08:12:21 AM »
@Isurus:
Alas, that's an even more unlikely combination. Eventually you will want to buy that 35mm lens anyway. It is on my wish list as well.  ;)

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 08:12:21 AM »

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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »
24-70 II is too much money for a kit. It doesn't make logical sense to have a kit that is sooo high end and expensive. Canon wants to make money, and if they don't think they are going to make more overall sales with kit then they aren't going to offer a kit. IMO they aren't going to make enough extra sales to justify the kit. At least not initially.

All my points would be invalid though if canon took $1200 or so off the price. Then you're talking about enough savings that people would buy the kit in droves.
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Re: 5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 01:40:59 PM »
Other option: Canon 50mm f/1.4 (or with the 50 f/1.4 II)

5DIII w/grip  |  6D  |  16-35L IS  |  24-105L  |  70-300L  |  24-70VC  |  70-200 f/2.8L IS II  |  35 f/2 IS  |  50A  |  135L

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 01:40:59 PM »