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WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:07:15 PM »
Just curious as to why there has been very little talk of the new cameras low light performance...

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WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 06:08:44 PM »
more importantly what will the USEABLE iso range be...

i hope 12800 usaeable maybe 25k native with 50k and 100k extensions?
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 08:13:02 PM »
The rumor on NL is 25600.  That sounds about right based on the Canon method of rating ISO.  If the sensor is one stop better in raw than the 5D MK II, that would be very good.  We are at the point where we only get incremental improvements in high ISO noise.

The raw images for the D800 look pretty good at IS)3200, and with NR and a loss of detail, they will be usable at 6400.  I'm hoping for one stop better.

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 08:32:20 PM »
The rumor on NL is 25600.  That sounds about right based on the Canon method of rating ISO.  If the sensor is one stop better in raw than the 5D MK II, that would be very good.  We are at the point where we only get incremental improvements in high ISO noise.

The raw images for the D800 look pretty good at IS)3200, and with NR and a loss of detail, they will be usable at 6400.  I'm hoping for one stop better.

I really hope so too that the 5D mkIII will be at least one stop better then the 36MP Nikon D800!!!  If not, then Canon is seriously behind in its ISO technology!  I am crossing my fingers!

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 08:38:24 PM »
I'd like it to be within a stop of the 1D X. I shoot a 50D now, but might be willing to go up to the 5D if the AF, frame rate and ISO is sports worthy.

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 09:09:31 PM »
I just hope its pretty close to the 1dmk4 if not better.... I shoot alot of concerts, weddings, and sports.... This camera sounds like the holy grail... (to me at least)

useable iso 6400-12800 should be standard.
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 11:32:38 PM »
I just hope its pretty close to the 1dmk4 if not better.... I shoot alot of concerts, weddings, and sports.... This camera sounds like the holy grail... (to me at least)

useable iso 6400-12800 should be standard.

The 5D MK II is already better at high ISO than the 1D MK IV, so thats a safe bet.  Full frame has a considerable advantage over crop sensors in low light.

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 05:35:31 AM »
I just hope its pretty close to the 1dmk4 if not better.... I shoot alot of concerts, weddings, and sports.... This camera sounds like the holy grail... (to me at least)

useable iso 6400-12800 should be standard.

The 5D MK II is already better at high ISO than the 1D MK IV, so thats a safe bet.  Full frame has a considerable advantage over crop sensors in low light.

How does that work?????
5dII max ISO is 6400
1D4 max ISO is 12800

Please explain

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 05:59:54 AM »
I just hope its pretty close to the 1dmk4 if not better.... I shoot alot of concerts, weddings, and sports.... This camera sounds like the holy grail... (to me at least)

useable iso 6400-12800 should be standard.

The 5D MK II is already better at high ISO than the 1D MK IV, so thats a safe bet.  Full frame has a considerable advantage over crop sensors in low light.



How does that work?????
5dII max ISO is 6400
1D4 max ISO is 12800

Please explain

Lower noise at high ISO, not max ISO - at 6400 for instance, 5D mk2 has less noise than 1D mk4 (if I am not mistaken, the difference is half a stop or so)
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 07:10:09 AM »
i hope the native ISO will be 100-25600 and H1,H2 to 100k

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 08:30:02 AM »
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 09:06:08 AM »
I'd like it to be within a stop of the 1D X. I shoot a 50D now, but might be willing to go up to the 5D if the AF, frame rate and ISO is sports worthy.

Sports worthy? As in 7-8 FPS? And FF? You are asking for a 3500-4500 dollar camera.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 09:12:50 AM »
i hope the native ISO will be 100-25600 and H1,H2 to 100k
Think this is a good assumption. Will be less than 1DX imho
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 09:12:50 AM »

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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 10:09:06 AM »
I'd like it to be within a stop of the 1D X. I shoot a 50D now, but might be willing to go up to the 5D if the AF, frame rate and ISO is sports worthy.

And I bet you want it to be $999 too huh?
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Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW 5D ISO RANGE WILL BE?????
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 11:41:16 AM »
I just hope its pretty close to the 1dmk4 if not better.... I shoot alot of concerts, weddings, and sports.... This camera sounds like the holy grail... (to me at least)

useable iso 6400-12800 should be standard.

The 5D MK II is already better at high ISO than the 1D MK IV, so thats a safe bet.  Full frame has a considerable advantage over crop sensors in low light.

How does that work?????
5dII max ISO is 6400
1D4 max ISO is 12800

Please explain

Have you looked at image samples??  5D MK II is obviously better at high ISO's.

You can also check DXO's measurements of the sensor low light properties.

The difference in the two is the in-camera jpeg processing that the 1D can do with its dual processors, so jpeg images look pretty good, but if you use raw, the 5D MK II is much better due to the fact that the images get the same high level of processing.

The ISO setting on a camera is no indication of relative performance. 

Even some point and shoot cameras can sometimes be set to ISO 6400, but that does not make them equal to a 5D MK II.

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 11:41:16 AM »