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A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« on: February 24, 2012, 10:35:57 PM »
Canon currently does not have in its stable a wide angled non-fisheye zoom to compete with Nikon's excellent 14-24 f/2.8.

Any speculations as to if and when Canon would indeed make such lens available?

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A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« on: February 24, 2012, 10:35:57 PM »

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 10:52:03 PM »
The 16-35 and 17-40 come pretty close -- almost so that it might not make sense to have overlap for an extra couple mm on the wide end (from a business point of view.) 

If it were made, I'd buy it, but only because I don't have the 17-40mm or 16-35mm anymore. 

14-24 + 24-70 + 70-200 makes a nice kit.
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 11:00:10 PM »
16-35II.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2012, 11:17:18 PM »
2mm on the wide end is quite a bit, especially for wide-angle junkies. That is not to mention anything of the jawdroppingly good optics on Nikon's 14-24. I agree, however, that an overlap doesn't make a lot of business sense, especially since the 16-35 is already f/2.8. For that reason, I think that if Canon does release a 14-24 (and I hope they do!), it will probably replace the 16-35 rather than becoming a third wide-angle zoom in the lineup. If it does happen, I'm sure the loss of the extra range would be bemoaned by some, but at the price it would need to be there shouldn't as much concern about complementing it with a normal zoom of some type. The switch to a bulbous front element could be troublesome, but then again it's not like the already-excellent 16-35 II would be going anywhere.

As for actual rumors, I've heard nothing of the sort.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 11:21:14 PM »
None of the Canon offerings have equal edge sharpness like the Nikon. It's just something Canon seems unable to figure out.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2012, 11:30:12 PM »
I have the 16-35 2.8 II and it's a great lens, but if Canon could produce a 14-24 2.8 with the optical quality of Nikon's 14-24, I'd sell my 16-35 in a flash.  From what I've read the Nikon 14-24 blows the 16-35 II away in terms of sharpness.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2012, 11:35:24 PM »
A Canon 14-24mm f2.8L is the #1 lens I want to see from Canon. Hopefully as good as the Nikon, which is stupidly sharp. As soon as it comes out, sign me up.
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2012, 09:09:35 AM »
None of the Canon offerings have equal edge sharpness like the Nikon. It's just something Canon seems unable to figure out.

Yes, although 16-35 and 17-40 are fantastic, 14-24 from Nikon seems a step above them. I think both those lenses have quite a bit of overlaps with the 24-70 and 24-105. A 2mm (~14%) difference is huge in wide angles. I think if Canon goes to 12-24 mm it will not overlap with its other two brethren.

May be my perceptions are incorrect, but Canon's wide angle lenses, especially at edges, need some more improvement compared to its telephoto lenses, which are really high quality.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2012, 12:43:44 PM »
for full frame you have the tokina 16-28 f: 2,8. http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx16-28profx-a.html

some reviews says is similar to nikon 14-24 in IQ, the only bad is not possibility to use filters.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2012, 01:05:04 PM »
it's the only lens i'd buy a Nikon body for!  ;)

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2012, 07:11:58 PM »
for full frame you have the tokina 16-28 f: 2,8. http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx16-28profx-a.html

some reviews says is similar to nikon 14-24 in IQ, the only bad is not possibility to use filters.

Gonzalo, true that. However, my question is about Canon making its own lens.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2012, 09:44:06 PM »
But they've already got the 14mm f/2.8 and 16-35mm f/2.8. If they make a 14-24mm f/2.8 then that's one lens that you'd have to buy instead of two, why would they do that and drop sales of their €2050 prime? [/sarcasm]

If they make a 14-24 f/4 then they can keep all 3 models, 14mm f/2.8 prime (€2050), 16-35mm f/2.8 fast zoom (€1270), 14-24 f/4 slower but wider zoom (would slot nicely in at €1800?). Then the 17-40 f/4 becomes more of a "My First Wideangle L Zoom" lens on the cheaper end (currently €690). I'm not expecting a 14-24 f/4 zoom to be much cheaper than the 16-35, although it could go up a bit higher than the 14mm prime depending on IQ.
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 12:33:00 PM »
But they've already got the 14mm f/2.8 and 16-35mm f/2.8. If they make a 14-24mm f/2.8 then that's one lens that you'd have to buy instead of two, why would they do that and drop sales of their €2050 prime? [/sarcasm]

If they make a 14-24 f/4 then they can keep all 3 models, 14mm f/2.8 prime (€2050), 16-35mm f/2.8 fast zoom (€1270), 14-24 f/4 slower but wider zoom (would slot nicely in at €1800?). Then the 17-40 f/4 becomes more of a "My First Wideangle L Zoom" lens on the cheaper end (currently €690). I'm not expecting a 14-24 f/4 zoom to be much cheaper than the 16-35, although it could go up a bit higher than the 14mm prime depending on IQ.
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A 14-24 f/4 would blend in perfectly. If it would be razor sharp.
 I like that idea, because the landscape & architecture fotos I make are usually in acceptable or better light conditions. So such a lens would be well suited for travelling... :)
For poor light, I would prefer a good wideangle prime.

My 2 cents :)
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »

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A 14-24 f/4 would blend in perfectly. If it would be razor sharp.
 I like that idea, because the landscape & architecture fotos I make are usually in acceptable or better light conditions. So such a lens would be well suited for travelling... :)
For poor light, I would prefer a good wideangle prime.

My 2 cents :)

No filters though...  All the wider lenses than the 16-35 have convex front elements.  The 16-35 is also over 30% lighter than the 14-24mm.  For reference, the Nikon 14-24 weighs more than the 85L II, which is already a special purpose lens.  As much as people complain about the 16-35's performance compared to the 14-24, I can imagine that the 16-35 would have to get wider and heavier to match Nikon performance, and the 16-35 already uses 82mm filters.

I do like Croubie's  idea of an f/4 14-24 though.  It would help Canon get around Nikon's patents, and it would be more portable and lighter, which is always a good thing.

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2012, 02:13:16 PM »
Anyone here tried the adapter route (e.g. Novoflex), putting the Nikon on a Canon body? Lack of AF doesn't seem to be much of a drawback on WA.

Personally I'm currently happy with my sharp copy 16-25 II and 14 II, but I've been tempted by the adapter in the past. Access to the Lee SW150 is one attraction. 

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Re: A Canon Competitor for Nikon 14-24 f/2.8
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2012, 02:13:16 PM »