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Your opinion about my lenses and my photography attitude?
« on: February 28, 2012, 07:26:21 AM »
Hey! I've got a Canon 60D with the following lenses:

Canon EF 15mm 2.8 Fisheye
Canon EF 28mm 1.8
Canon EF 100mm 2.8 Macro
Canon EF 200mm 2.8 II
(and a 430EX II flash)

As you may have noticed I'm not a big fan of zoom lenses, it distracts me too much in relating to framing, so with my four primes I have to move around a lot and composition is for me easier than with a zoom, where you first have to choose the focal length and then start to think how your final frame should look like. This may sound stupid, I don't know. I also prefer the superior IQ of the primes, as my budget isn't unlimited.

In the not to near future I am planning to go full frame. It may also been a reason I chose these four specific lenses. The plan is to get a full frame and then replace the 28mm 1.8 with a 35mm 1.4.

I like to shoot a lot of subjects, and I prefer to make spontaneous pictures, that's what I do most. You can also call it street photography. I am looking forward to make some conceptional pictures, also because I want to build up a portfolio. I shot around 12'000 pictures with my 60D (and 9'000 with my sold 400D) and I've got plenty of splendid shots. The only thing is my best shots are very broad regarding theme and subjects, and I really don't know yet what I am best at shooting or what's my favorite subjects are. Well, actually I prefer to shoot people. Until now more without a set up, also because I haven't got the opportunity to have a model and a studio at hand. Or enough free time and a model with enough free time. Whatever.

Soo, what do you think about this? What way am I going? Thank you for every opinion and reply!

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 07:41:00 AM »
Nice kit!  I'd definitely recommend the 35L over the 28/1.8 for FF.

Else, on FF you might find 200mm too short for candid street shots. You could consider the 300/4 L IS, or you could add a 1.4x TC to the 200/2.8.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 07:47:01 AM »
Surprised you have not got a 50/1.4 which would be a good portrait or walk around lens on a 1.6x crop. I use my 50mm indoors on my 7D a lot. Also depends on whether you're into video or not. You seem to have 'wide' and 'long' but not much in between. Just an observation.

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 07:57:39 AM »
Nice kit!  I'd definitely recommend the 35L over the 28/1.8 for FF.

Else, on FF you might find 200mm too short for candid street shots. You could consider the 300/4 L IS, or you could add a 1.4x TC to the 200/2.8.
Thanks.
I really like the 200mm 'cause of its light weight, what you can't really say about the 300/4 L IS.
A 1.4x TC isn't a bad idea at all! I would prefer the TC over a big white lens ;-), also because I like to carry around my equipment all the time, and until now it's not to heavy at all (and it fits into my Kata DR-467i).

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 08:05:07 AM »
Surprised you have not got a 50/1.4 which would be a good portrait or walk around lens on a 1.6x crop. I use my 50mm indoors on my 7D a lot. Also depends on whether you're into video or not. You seem to have 'wide' and 'long' but not much in between. Just an observation.
I had the 50/1.8 (with my 400D) and it was a good start, but I couldn't arrange with the focal length.
It was too close for me indoors, and even outdoors it was either too close or not close enough! That's the reason I bought a 28mm and right after that the 100mm, so I walk around with one of them :-). The 28mm gives me a nice to use 44mm full frame equivalent.
I'll probably will get a 50mm when I am going full frame, but as said the 80mm full frame equivalent didn't suit me, and now I am wondering for what you are using the 7D + 50mm indoors? :-)

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 08:20:46 AM »
I had the 50/1.8 (with my 400D) and it was a good start, but I couldn't arrange with the focal length.
It was too close for me indoors, and even outdoors it was either too close or not close enough! That's the reason I bought a 28mm and right after that the 100mm, so I walk around with one of them :-). The 28mm gives me a nice to use 44mm full frame equivalent.
I'll probably will get a 50mm when I am going full frame, but as said the 80mm full frame equivalent didn't suit me, and now I am wondering for what you are using the 7D + 50mm indoors? :-)

50mm can be use on crop bodies as a portrait lens.  85mm can be used for head shots.  The 50 and 85 on a crop would be similar to the 85 and 135 on a full frame.  It takes some getting used to if you're used to shooting wider focal lengths, but the change in perspective can be refreshing.


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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 09:24:54 AM »
surprised primes and spontaneous go together....
But why are you surprised? Until you zoom to the right length the spontaneous moment is gone, isn't it? ;o)

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 09:53:56 AM »
surprised primes and spontaneous go together....
But why are you surprised? Until you zoom to the right length the spontaneous moment is gone, isn't it? ;o)

I think that's what bycostello indicated, not sure though. From another point of view, since the picture might not be composed to perfection anyway, it might also be good for spontaneous pictures to have a zoom, maybe not a too big range. A quick zoom might be performed quite quickly if necessary. Not very practical of course for shots from the hip  :D

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 10:23:04 AM »
I have to problem with people who shoot primes either primarily or exclusively. While the image quality might not be that that much better than modern zooms, I find that people who use primes a lot tend to learn composition better and faster.

Obviously if you were shooting sports or similar, then a zoom might be prefereable/necessary, but due to slow film, I often had to shoot a fast fifty for my high school's athletics, so nothing is always true.

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 10:39:23 AM »
The plan is to get a full frame and then replace the 28mm 1.8 with a 35mm 1.4.

Maybe replace 28/1.8 with 50/1.4 for similar framing?  50 mm may not have worked for you on crop, but you may like it on FF.

As for attitude - who cares what other people think.  Just go shoot and do what you like to do.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 10:56:08 AM »
I'm using 50mm on 7D mostly for one-on-one documentary interviews. It gives you a good one-third fill on head n' shoulders from about 6 to 8 feet away, but main reason is the large aperture that's necessary even with 4 x 625 watt 5500K lights on umbrella stands either side, although I hate shooting video below 2.8.

I did an interview with a retailer recently standing at the entrance to their store with the rest of the shopping mall in the background and opened it right up to f1.4 and the bokeh from the neon lights & store signs in the backdrop as well as blurry shoppers looked great.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 11:27:04 AM »
I'm using 50mm on 7D mostly for one-on-one documentary interviews. It gives you a good one-third fill on head n' shoulders from about 6 to 8 feet away, but main reason is the large aperture that's necessary even with 4 x 625 watt 5500K lights on umbrella stands either side, although I hate shooting video below 2.8.

I did an interview with a retailer recently standing at the entrance to their store with the rest of the shopping mall in the background and opened it right up to f1.4 and the bokeh from the neon lights & store signs in the backdrop as well as blurry shoppers looked great.
Sounds good :-) Where can I see this retailer guy picture? I am using the the 100mm for head portraits, but it's true, a 50mm does the job better, at least on a crop camera.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 11:37:36 AM »
Hey! I've got a Canon 60D with the following lenses:

Canon EF 15mm 2.8 Fisheye
Canon EF 28mm 1.8
Canon EF 100mm 2.8 Macro
Canon EF 200mm 2.8 II
(and a 430EX II flash)

As you may have noticed I'm not a big fan of zoom lenses, it distracts me too much in relating to framing, so with my four primes I have to move around a lot and composition is for me easier than with a zoom, where you first have to choose the focal length and then start to think how your final frame should look like. This may sound stupid, I don't know. I also prefer the superior IQ of the primes, as my budget isn't unlimited.

In the not to near future I am planning to go full frame. It may also been a reason I chose these four specific lenses. The plan is to get a full frame and then replace the 28mm 1.8 with a 35mm 1.4.

I like to shoot a lot of subjects, and I prefer to make spontaneous pictures, that's what I do most. You can also call it street photography. I am looking forward to make some conceptional pictures, also because I want to build up a portfolio. I shot around 12'000 pictures with my 60D (and 9'000 with my sold 400D) and I've got plenty of splendid shots. The only thing is my best shots are very broad regarding theme and subjects, and I really don't know yet what I am best at shooting or what's my favorite subjects are. Well, actually I prefer to shoot people. Until now more without a set up, also because I haven't got the opportunity to have a model and a studio at hand. Or enough free time and a model with enough free time. Whatever.

Soo, what do you think about this? What way am I going? Thank you for every opinion and reply!

There is that big 1.6 crop factor that you are going to lose, its not trivial.  Your 200mm lens looked like 320mm on your 60D, and now it will be 200mm.  The 35mmL will replace your 28mm ok, but you may be missing 50mm,  85mm, and 135mm on the 5D MK II.

I use 85mm and 135mm is my most used focal length.

Why not get a 5D with the kit zoom, and use it to find out what focal lengths you will use.  You can always resell it for more than the kit price.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 11:43:02 AM »
The plan is to get a full frame and then replace the 28mm 1.8 with a 35mm 1.4.

Maybe replace 28/1.8 with 50/1.4 for similar framing? 50 mm may not have worked for you on crop, but you may like it on FF.

As for attitude - who cares what other people think.  Just go shoot and do what you like to do.
Yes, a 50mm should be a must with a full frame, that's what I wrote already somewhere above..

Yeah, I generally do not care about other people opinions, but for this time I wanted to know it! :-) So I don't hang around with other photographers, and now I was looking for some chit chat about my equipment? Some guy reading this and having the same preferences for primes may tell me some for me unknown secrets, haha.

Actually this is what I am missing, a mentor! You can self study photography but you learn slower as if someone is watching over your shoulder, or you over his/her.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 11:43:02 AM »