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Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
Marsu42:
--- Quote from: briansquibb on April 15, 2012, 06:05:36 AM ---The 1.3 sensor is much cheaper to produce than ff, so it will be possible to continue for Canon to produce bodies in the price range of the 7D/5DII whilst delivering technological improvements
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They certainly could - but why would they want to? They've got a nice split into an amateur and pro market and can deliver different strategies to them while having the ef-s barrier between them - that's why they made sure you cannot use ef-s on full frame, unlike Nikon dx/fx. As it stands, Canon gains from this split *because* there's no aps-h middle ground, but if you want to improve upon your aps-c sensor, you have to scrap your ef-s lenses and pay big money.
--- Quote from: briansquibb on April 15, 2012, 06:05:36 AM ---How many really top quality ef-s lens are there to really consider?
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You're forgetting the highly regarded Tokina 11-16 & Sigma 8-16, there are other things than Canon out there.
--- Quote from: briansquibb on April 15, 2012, 06:05:36 AM ---APS-C is a budget technology nowadays, technology has moved on and as photographers we should always be aiming for the best.
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Best pictures - yes. Best (i.e. highest) system price and largest cameras - no. If you wanted that, you probably wouldn't be writing here, but sitting behind your 50k$ middle format camera with some 10$k lenses.
I think aps-c is a budget technology because it's made a budget technology - it's still a larger sensor than most system cameras. And while it has the disadvantage of the smaller viewfinder, it does have some advantages over full frame: Easier to build quality ultrawides, smaller bodies because of the smaller mirror. The only point aps-c is so screwed is that the traditional 35mm film uses the so-said full frame format and ef lenses, but that's just a historic fact. With each upgraded sensor generation, for your usual shots there will be less and less need for full frame.
briansquibb:
--- Quote from: Marsu42 on April 15, 2012, 06:34:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: briansquibb on April 15, 2012, 06:05:36 AM ---APS-C is a budget technology nowadays, technology has moved on and as photographers we should always be aiming for the best.
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Best pictures - yes. Best (i.e. highest) system price and largest cameras - no. If you wanted that, you probably wouldn't be writing here, but sitting behind your 50k$ middle format camera with some 10$k lenses.
I think aps-c is a budget technology because it's made a budget technology - it's still a larger sensor than most system cameras. And while it has the disadvantage of the smaller viewfinder, it does have some advantages over full frame: Easier to build quality ultrawides, smaller bodies because of the smaller mirror. The only point aps-c is so screwed is that the traditional 35mm film uses the so-said full frame format and ef lenses, but that's just a historic fact. With each upgraded sensor generation, for your usual shots there will be less and less need for full frame.
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I have no issue with aps-c, what I am proposing is that Canon fill that ground that is currently being ignored ie the mid range that is between aps-c and ff and give the 7D owners a reasonably priced upgrade path
Marsu42:
--- Quote from: briansquibb on April 15, 2012, 08:18:32 AM ---I have no issue with aps-c, what I am proposing is that Canon fill that ground that is currently being ignored ie the mid range that is between aps-c and ff and give the 7D owners a reasonably priced upgrade path
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That's what I was writing about, too, and a question only Canon marketing looking at their sales stats and research could answer: Why offer a reasonably priced upgrade path if users will take the unreasonably priced one, too, if there is no other one available?
But I'm absolutely in favor of an aps-h model at a somewhat affordable price and would get it over a 7d any moment, but I just don't think it'll happen.
Musouka:
But what if the rumored $2K FF became a reality? Heck the 5D2 is currently selling at $2200.
Surely Canon won't be charging a similar price for an APS-H model, would they? The 7D BO debuted for $1700 and currently retails for around than $1550. Seeing the recent trends in Canon's pricing, a successor would most probably be priced at $1800-$2000.
Maybe that rumored FF is the upgrade path?
briansquibb:
5DII is hardly an upgrade for a sport aps-c where a good AF and fps is required
A aps-h with the same spec as the current 7D - but with the AF, IQ and high iso would be an attractive upgrade.
Think of the L lens Canon would start selling - and also ease the path for dual body ownership
The cost of the body is significantly smaller than the cost of the lens and other acessories
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