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Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
« Reply #180 on: April 02, 2012, 12:54:33 PM »
What I've found to be the best settings on my 7D for a 'bird in flight' (BIF) with a (relatively) busy background is the 'AF point expansion'. I keep the selected AF point over the bird, and it tracks well using AI Servo. 

I was using my 70-300mm L lens which is very sharp wide open, also f/5.6 at 300mm - this was the best setting.

+1 That is what I use - works well on the 1D4 as well (although I am now using the AV/auto iso technique now)

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« Reply #180 on: April 02, 2012, 12:54:33 PM »

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« Reply #181 on: April 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM »
Things what I would really like to see:
 - Improved AF system with few more than 19 points
 - Usable ISO to 6400-12800 like in 5D3, so basicly close to 5D3 ISO performance
 - Dual card slot, CF/SD
 - APS-C w/18-22 mp
 - Improved movie mode
 - Newly designed upper LCD screen and fully new LCD screen 3.2"
 - 8-10FPS burst
 - DIGIC 5+ and DIGIC 5 for metering

That's about it really looking for those and then see if going for upgrade from 7D ;)

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« Reply #182 on: April 02, 2012, 02:12:01 PM »
Things what I would really like to see:
 - Improved AF system with few more than 19 points
 - Usable ISO to 6400-12800 like in 5D3, so basicly close to 5D3 ISO performance
 - Dual card slot, CF/SD
 - APS-C w/18-22 mp
 - Improved movie mode
 - Newly designed upper LCD screen and fully new LCD screen 3.2"
 - 8-10FPS burst
 - DIGIC 5+ and DIGIC 5 for metering

That's about it really looking for those and then see if going for upgrade from 7D ;)

All for $1500??

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« Reply #183 on: April 02, 2012, 03:32:29 PM »
All for $1500??
Well... something of those would like to see

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Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
« Reply #184 on: April 02, 2012, 04:19:02 PM »
Above 800 ISO, you get extremely noisy images even after I dial in +1.5-2.0EV on my T2i. This is very disappointing as most of the fine shots I can see happen during early hours or near twilight.


Up to the max "native" iso on your camera, you're better off just setting the iso to the exposure you need rather than messing with the compensation.  Now, you certainly want to expose to the right, but unless you're in pretty dark conditions this usually won't be more than a stop or so, and certainly depends a whole lot on the scene.

But all other things being equal, as long as you're within the "native" iso range of your camera (not using "expansion" settings) the camera does some processing optimized for that particular gain setting.  Compensation is best used to get the exposure "right" for a given iso, aperture, & shutter speed, rather than an alternative to using a higher or lower iso setting.
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« Reply #185 on: April 02, 2012, 04:41:30 PM »
Dont think Canon wont upgrade the 7D. Way to many have a need for a pro level 1.6 crop.

Their problem lies in what to do about the other crop bodies. As it is now the xxxD, and xxD lines are to similar. From a manufacturing perspective it is getting to costly to keep this many models, with so few differences on the table. Same thing is happening with the lenses too.

The xxxD/xxD lines will probably be merged together, and give a clear position for the 7D replacement, to sit in the line-up. The price is gonna be kinda steep, around 3K.
I think in a few years the number of products that Canon offers for still photography will be smaller than whats out there today.

Likewise on glass, the zoom offerings will be scaled back.  Remember, Canon has to make a profit to stay in business.

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« Reply #186 on: April 02, 2012, 05:49:24 PM »
What's to say they won't just do away with the xxxxD line?  Wasn't this the latest addition in terms of lines? That way, the current xxxxD becomes xxxD, xxxD to xxD etc, the lines pretty much return to their original placings and once again regain some degree of separation. I know they won't be exactly how they used to be, but makes more sense to me than getting rid of the 7D line, or relegating it.

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« Reply #186 on: April 02, 2012, 05:49:24 PM »

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« Reply #187 on: April 02, 2012, 08:09:10 PM »
What's to say they won't just do away with the xxxxD line?

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« Reply #188 on: April 02, 2012, 08:17:45 PM »
If a 7d mark ii actually appeared, I don't think it will groundbreaking at all. A few tweaks hear and there to up the usable iso's, maybe a couple more af sensors etc. The twin cf card thing too would be good.

They could make it a little better in those regards without it costing heaps more. Because seriously if a mark ii 7d is going to cost heaps heaps more than the one I have, screw that.

The step up from the 7d As I see it is the 1d mark iv. - If your like me with your shooting that is. Im not interested in the 5d mark iii at all! Its just too slow. I may grab a 1d mark iv if the prices drop for a second body.

By the way that 70-300L is a great lens. I'll put +1 for that.

And lastly, the 7d has been doing me so so well. Its just simply pretty great for me.

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« Reply #189 on: April 03, 2012, 12:15:35 AM »
It would be interesting to know if Canon considers the 7d a "pro" crop.  There were many stories of 5dm2 shooters "upgrading" their 1 camera to two 7d's. I have the feeling, like video, Canon may regret the 7d as it provided too much for too little profit. Instead of taking this great thing and improving it, they want it to go away so it doesn't compete with they 5d line.

I'd be very happy just to see a natural progression of the 7d without any crippling of what's already there. A little more ISO, a little better focus, and maybe one or two "consumer" features that don't want to put in the 1d/5d family.

Even better would be the introduction of a true professional crop, but I'm afraid the price might go up significantly.

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« Reply #190 on: April 03, 2012, 10:02:07 AM »
The announcement of the 60Da optimized for astro-photography should (But probably won't) put to rest the rumors of a 70D replacement for the 7D.

It is unlikely Canon would release a new variation in a body that they were planning to significantly upgrade in the next six months or so. The production efficiencies of using the 60D body for the new 60Da disappear if a significantly re-tooled 70D is released.

On the other hand, if the 7DII and 70D releases follow the previous schedule, Canon will have almost a year of production left in the 60D after the new 7D is announced. Plus, keeping both models means that the 70D can continue to use much of the same tooling, etc. as the 60D, allowing Canon it avoid having to keep a separate production line operating for the niche 60Da.

Repositioning the XX series once again never seemed to make much sense. I'm hoping the new 60Da will put that rumor to rest once and for all and let us focus on what is really important – fantasizing about what the 7DII might be like. 
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« Reply #191 on: April 03, 2012, 10:09:05 AM »
Repositioning the XX series once again never seemed to make much sense. I'm hoping the new 60Da will put that rumor to rest once and for all and let us focus on what is really important – fantasizing about what the 7DII might be like.
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Makes no sense at all. The main difference between the lines will come down to build quality and shooting speed. I don't care that the images are the same, but build quality and shooting speed matter a lot to ME.
(BTW, the 7D only needs better a bump in IQ and ISO performance, and another memory card slot... aside from that, we're all good)

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Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
« Reply #192 on: April 03, 2012, 10:11:02 AM »
The announcement of the 60Da optimized for astro-photography should (But probably won't) put to rest the rumors of a 70D replacement for the 7D.

Probably not :-p ... it's still a possibility that Canon might drop the 7d2 in favor of a new full frame body in the ~2000 bucks price segment and put in the 7d af in the 70d next year. But maybe that's just wishful thinking on my side.

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« Reply #193 on: April 03, 2012, 10:15:14 AM »
Probably not :-p ... it's still a possibility that Canon might drop the 7d2 in favor of a new full frame body in the ~2000 bucks price segment and put in the 7d af in the 70d next year. But maybe that's just wishful thinking on my side.
The 5D3 is basically a full frame sensor in a 7D box. It's the full frame 7D that lots of people pleaded for. Something in the ~$2000 price range would need lower build quality. We already have that: the 5D2.

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« Reply #194 on: April 03, 2012, 10:25:12 AM »
The 5D3 is basically a full frame sensor in a 7D box. It's the full frame 7D that lots of people pleaded for. Something in the ~$2000 price range would need lower build quality. We already have that: the 5D2.

There are some shared style features - but that is all

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« Reply #194 on: April 03, 2012, 10:25:12 AM »