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For those who are originally planning to get 1D X, what do you think about the rumored (but highly likely now) 5D Mark III?

1. Stick with pre-order of 1D X (paid professional *needs* full specs of 1D X)
10 (10.3%)
2. Stick with plan to get 1D X (unpaid hobbyist *wants* full specs of 1D X)
11 (11.3%)
3. Change to pre-order (maybe 2 given the price diff) 5D Mark III (paid professional *wants* full specs of 1D X but *needs* lower specs of 5D3)
11 (11.3%)
4. Change plan to get 5D Mark III (unpaid hobbyist *wants* full specs of 1D X but *accepts* lower specs of 5D3)
21 (21.6%)
5. Pre-order both 1D X and 5D Mark III (paid professional *needs* both 1D X and 5D3)
7 (7.2%)
6. Plan to get both 1D X and 5D Mark III (unpaid hobbyist *wants* both 1D X and 5D3)
3 (3.1%)
7. Plan to order after both are reviewed by experts
34 (35.1%)

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POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« on: March 01, 2012, 06:02:02 PM »
Now the rumored but highly likely 5D Mark III is imminent.  And its specs make me think that Canon doesn't mind the 5D series further cannibalizing the 1D series even more than the what 5D2 did.  I for one drooled over the 1D X high ISO performance and killer AF.  But if 5D Mark 3 can do it only 1 stop less than 1D X and has similar but simplified 61-pt AF, I can totally see myself pre-ordering two 5D3's instead.

What are your plans?
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »
Wait for the 5d4? :-[
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 06:07:09 PM »
I was never going to buy a 1Dx
if i wanted the intergrated bulky grip i'd get a 1D4 (might still)
but a couple of 5Dmk3s will surely find a home :D
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 06:11:02 PM »
I was never going to buy a 1Dx
if i wanted the intergrated bulky grip i'd get a 1D4 (might still)
but a couple of 5Dmk3s will surely find a home :D

I was just wondering how adamant other potential 1D X buyers are and what their rationales are.   :)

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 06:14:21 PM »
No, really, I wanted the 5d3 from day one.  When the original 5d came out I thought: "Yes, FF will be $1299 in a few years."  Wow, I was off on that.

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 06:43:45 PM »
Still not fully committed to the 1D X, but strongly leaning that way so voted accordingly. Reserving final judgement until after the official announcement.   I don't feel the need to wait for reviews - I'm sure both cameras will be excellent.  What I'm waiting for is the tech articles from Canon, similar to what they did for the 1D X, with the details of the systems, particularly AF and metering.  I'm not bothered by the lower MP count of the 1D X, there's really not a huge difference between 22 MP and 18 MP (but on the other side of the fence, the difference between 36 and 16 MP would make for a harder decision).  Aside from the obvious features of double the fps and a stop more ISO, there are a few minor things that incline me to the 1D X:

  • I prefer two CF to one each CF + SD
  • Integrated grip (annoyed by the flex of the separate grip)
  • Spot metering linked to any AF point
  • Customizable limits on shutter speed and aperture
  • Higher flash sync speed

Note that some of those are assumptions, which is a big reason I'm waiting for official information.

Ultimately, though, it may be as simple as the fact that the 1D X is 'the best', and I want 'the best'...   :)
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 06:53:36 PM »
"(unpaid hobbyist *wants* full specs of 1D X)"

Right now in my mind, I'm 70/30 1D X.  I'm a unpaid hobbyist who needs very good low light capabilities, a good AF system, and decent FPS, with more weight on the first two, than the latter. 

That puts me in the wait and see category.  Right now it looks like a tough decision, the 1D X clearly exceeds the 5D III in the three areas I'm mainly looking at, but I would like to see by how much.  Specifically what the 5D III can do, especially in terms of the exact specifics of how it's AF system is going to operate. 

Another caveat is, I'd really like to have a body in hand by August, that might push me to the 1D X depending on when the 5D III is available.

Wow...CR is acting weird with edits today.

EDIT: I see Neuro posted, what I'm waiting for is for him to make a decision and to provide a detailed post explaining the pros and cons for his deicsion. :)

Actually his post did highlight one thing I like about the 1D X, the spot metering for any AF point and then of course there's the little bit about liking to have the best.  But, for $3000 saved I could have the best immediately in the 24-70 II, decisions decsions.
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 06:53:36 PM »

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 07:12:12 PM »
Decided not to get 1DX so bought a lens instead :D

Spot metering linked to any AF point is on earlier 1 Series too
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 07:22:26 PM »
Spot metering linked to any AF point

Right.  1D X's 100k-pixel RGB metering and its association to AF are really droolable.  And spot metering at the chosen AF point is just at a total different level.  BTW, does anyone know if D800's 90k RGB metering can do the same?

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 07:27:47 PM »
I was never going to buy a 1Dx
if i wanted the intergrated bulky grip i'd get a 1D4 (might still)
but a couple of 5Dmk3s will surely find a home :D

I was just wondering how adamant other potential 1D X buyers are and what their rationales are.   :)

the grips are either love or hate i'm in the hate camp a non gripped 1Dx would have been fine but it is looking like the 5D3 is going to fit the bill nicely

as neuro said metering linked to AF point would be nice though

difference between 18MP and 22MP isnt much and not an issue i hope the IQ difference is not huge either
REALLY looking forward to some high res raw samples from both cameras

It looks like canon listened to most concerns regarding the 5D2 with this camera
I want to preoprder but I am worried about being on the bleeding edge if there are problems or issues with early models so might hold off till i can get my hands on one in the flesh and try it out.
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 07:34:26 PM »
I'm in a bit different camp but here is where my opinions have taken me.

- When the 1DX was announced, I put in a preorder immediately.
- Later on, I realized I didn't really need the 1DX and I allocated most of the budget elsewhere.  I picked up an 8-15 fisheye, microscope objective, and a Stackshot. I do not regret this decision.
- I still kept enough money put aside for a 5D3 at $3k.  My feeling was I would buy one.
- Now that the 5D3 has been (not fully) announced, I am disappointed.  I am disappointed both by the higher price and the specs. I find it very difficult to justify it.
- When I look at the 1DX, though, I find it a bit more justifiable.  The 5D3 really just looks like a 5D2 with a bit better high ISO and the AF of the 7D.  The 1DX adds the following.
     1) even better high ISO
     2) better metering - ability to meter on an AF point
     3) improved AF
     4) double the fps
     5) weather sealing
     6) more customization
     7) better ergonomics
- I therefore find myself in a debate. If I do move to another camera, the 1DX is more the camera I would expect.  It is a significant improvement on top of the 5D2.  On the other hand, it is very expensive.

Unless the 5D3 has much better high ISO than I think it will, at this point I am unlikely to move to it.  I am, however, more likely to move to a 1DX in the future.  Of course, I still have to justify the 1DX compared to other things that I would buy, but strongly in favor of the 1DX this time around is the fact that I have already bought them. :)
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 07:34:37 PM »
I'm #1 in a few places in Canada for both... but they'll be rented at Lens Rentals Canada.

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 07:50:09 PM »
I don't think the 5Dmk3 is going to eat into the sales of the 1DX that much. The 1DX is marketed to a specific group of people who demand that workhorse of a camera. Those people are going to get the 1DX no matter what. 6fps isn't going to cut it for professional sports photographers. The weather sealing of the 1DX is unmatched in the Canon lineup.

The 5dmk3 is for people like me who crave for the 1DX, but are more than happy to get the 5dmk3. I love the specs of the 1DX as much as the next guy, but that monster fps isn't a must have for me. I baby my cameras so tank-like weather sealing isn't a huge must for me either.
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 08:34:06 PM »
How about none of the above? Neither focus with an 800mm + !.4x? Then long live the 1D4. I wouldn't waste my money on either of these 2 manual focus cameras. I'd rather they left out the exposure meter than the AF with f8. To each his own, and these 2 cameras ain't mine.

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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 08:37:43 PM »
...bought a lens instead

Yeah, me, too.  Had the cash for the 1D X, spent some on a 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS a month ago.  Fortunately, I've re-accumulated a sufficient stack of cash for the 1D X.   :)   Extra funds will be needed for the new flash and an L-bracket...
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Re: POLL: Potential 1D X buyers - still 1D X or 5D Mark III now?
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