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« on: March 01, 2012, 06:47:20 PM »
It looks like there may be both the 24-105 4.0 IS Mk.I and 24-70 2.8 Mk.II being offered based on Photoprice.ca as they have placeholders for both:

24-105 kit
http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03870/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-with-EF-24-105-IS-Kit-price.html

24-70 Mk.II kit
http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03869/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-with-24-70-II-Kit-price.html

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 06:53:19 PM »
Great stuff because if that is the case I will be going for the 24-70 Mk.II kit for my first 5D3 purchase.

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 06:54:43 PM »
Great stuff because if that is the case I will be going for the 24-70 Mk.II kit for my first 5D3 purchase.

I am leaning towards that myself - it will all depend on where the price lands.

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 06:57:51 PM »
Nice options but I am leaning towards a prime lens (does not have to be L).  Any thoughts?

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 06:59:18 PM »
Nice options but I am leaning towards a prime lens (does not have to be L), any thoughts?

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 07:00:51 PM »
Nice options but I am leaning towards a prime lens (does not have to be L), any thoughts?
Depends what you want to shoot. Landscape, portraits, sports, etc...

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 07:48:02 PM »
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 07:58:54 PM »
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k
I said in another post that I thought this combo would be $4999 - here's hoping :)

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 09:14:22 PM »
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k

True, but that would undermine Canon's pricing strategy of 2300 and 3500 for the lens and camera.  Personally, I think both prices are too high.  The 5DII should be closer the D800 price of 3000, the 24-70 should be under 2000.  There is no reason why new Canon gear is so much more expensive than its Nikon counterparts.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 09:30:43 PM »
If a 24-70 kit is available, I would not expect any more than $300 to $350 discount on the 24-70 lens making the kit between $5449 and $5499.

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 09:59:48 PM »
I would expect the combo to be 5500.  Couple of hundred savings.

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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 10:26:50 PM »
I am trying to decide between these two with the new 5D3. I have used a 17-55/2.8 Is on my 40D for years and have been waiting for the 5D3 to upgrade. I know the capabilities of the 24-105 and am wondering if going for the 24-70 without IS on a camera (5D3) that can obviously tolerate higher ISO would be the way to go.

I like the reach of the 24-105 and I dig the IS. I am often shooting at 1/15 of a second and the IS is a huge help in those situations, although that is on my 40D and I never go above ISO800 and even then I try to avoid it.

Any thoughts on this?

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 11:50:12 PM »
I am trying to decide between these two with the new 5D3. I have used a 17-55/2.8 Is on my 40D for years and have been waiting for the 5D3 to upgrade. I know the capabilities of the 24-105 and am wondering if going for the 24-70 without IS on a camera (5D3) that can obviously tolerate higher ISO would be the way to go.

I like the reach of the 24-105 and I dig the IS. I am often shooting at 1/15 of a second and the IS is a huge help in those situations, although that is on my 40D and I never go above ISO800 and even then I try to avoid it.

Any thoughts on this?

Neither the 24-70 nor the 24-105 is going to be a great solution for shooting in very low light but the 24-70 would probably do better.  The 24-105 is a a stop slower than the 17-55, so that would increase shutter time to 1/8s, which is VERY slow, and your keeper rate would be worse than with your current 17-55.

But FF cameras tend to have less noise than crop bodies.  Assuming that the 5DIII's ISO 3200 performance is equivalent to the D40's ISO 800 (worst case), that would give you a respectable shutter speed of 1/60s for the 24-70 f/2.8 and 1/30s for the 24-105 f/4 with a couple stops of IS thrown in.  So for static subjects, the 24-105 might do better and give you more flexibility with ISO, but I think I'd rather take my chances with the 24-70 at 1/60s because faster shutter speeds also reduce motion blur.

That said, you might consider getting the less expensive 24-105 (esp. in a kit) as a walkabout lens and then use the several hundred dollar difference for the 24-70 I or the over 1k difference for the 24-70 II to get a f/1.8 or f/1.4 or f/1.2 prime at the focal length you need.  An f/1.4 lens would allow you to shoot at 1/60s at ISO 800 whereas the f/2.8 lens needed 1/15s.  The DOF is different, but fast primes on a FF camera would give you the most options.

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 12:35:32 AM »
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k

True, but that would undermine Canon's pricing strategy of 2300 and 3500 for the lens and camera.  Personally, I think both prices are too high.  The 5DII should be closer the D800 price of 3000, the 24-70 should be under 2000.  There is no reason why new Canon gear is so much more expensive than its Nikon counterparts.


Agreed. its expensive.

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 12:35:32 AM »