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Why the Japan hate Canon
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:04:12 AM »
So where the 5dIII is selling for $3500 USD in the states... Those of us in Japan get it at the lovely price of $4100 at today's exchange rates...  This is why I buy all my canon stuff from the states...  Was figuring it was goign to be more normalized with current exchange rates.. but apparantly not.
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Why the Japan hate Canon
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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 01:27:16 AM »
This is nothing new. Electronics have been more expensive in Japan forever.

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 01:29:17 AM »
What about the 4200 price we have here in Aus...

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 04:54:05 AM »
So where the 5dIII is selling for $3500 USD in the states... Those of us in Japan get it at the lovely price of $4100 at today's exchange rates...  This is why I buy all my canon stuff from the states...  Was figuring it was goign to be more normalized with current exchange rates.. but apparantly not.

i feel you brother. i'm in osaka. what part are you in? any idea what the customs or VAT or whatever is for importing a 5D3 (back) to Japan? I'm gonna have to get my family in the states to ship it to me out here. $3500 works out to like 290,000 yen. That's pretty significant compared to 358,000 yen.

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 06:29:34 AM »
What about the 4200 price we have here in Aus...

I called a Swedish reseller that is one of the big once.
We chitchatted  for a while about the 5D3 and then I asked about preorder price.

31 000 Swedish kronor

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4 654.805 U.S. dollars

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 06:39:40 AM »
In norway it is sold for 5 358 US dollars

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 06:51:42 AM »
yeah.... the 4,200 AUD translates to 4,529 USD. makes me completely unsympathetic to the Americans who are complaining about the price.

i would ask my mom to ship me one from America, but i really want a warranty that i can use.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 06:51:42 AM »

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 07:47:39 AM »
comparison of euro vs USD prices make little sense since in most european countries we have a thing called VAT !
It's a hefty +20% (depending on countries) in taxes only

So if you take 3299 EUR MSRP, make -20% from there it goes 2640 EUR, which at today's rate is 3511 USD
so no surpriese here!
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« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 07:50:58 AM by rambarra »

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 07:51:44 AM »
Or £2999, which is equivalent to $4759 in the UK. Still, on a positive note, that is a better comparison than when the 7D came out, as that was £1700 or around $2697, compared to $1700 in the US, so it's a bargain really. It also means that prices tend have more leeway to come down, once it's been out for a while. It doesn't make it any cheaper to import though, as the VAT and duty pushes the price up nearly as much, without a useful warranty.
Just noticed, that if you get the kit version with the 24-70 MkII, you save £1 on the price of a 1D X.
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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 07:54:00 AM »
Hate to be the economist in the room, but of course the product is more expensive, it's being sold more economically close to the relative localized labor costs.  You could probably isolate assembly labor and the difference between the US and Japan and throw in some exchange carry risk and all of a sudden they are about the same. 


The only other possibility is that the people of japan truly have more demand for cameras than use as the company recognizes it. 

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 07:54:49 AM »
Hate to be the economist in the room, but of course the product is more expensive, it's being sold more economically close to the relative localized labor costs.  You could probably isolate assembly labor and the difference between the US and Japan and throw in some exchange carry risk and all of a sudden they are about the same. 


The only other possibility is that the people of japan truly have more demand for cameras than use as the company recognizes it. 

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 07:55:15 AM »
Hate to be the economist in the room, but of course the product is more expensive, it's being sold more economically close to the relative localized labor costs.  You could probably isolate assembly labor and the difference between the US and Japan and throw in some exchange carry risk and all of a sudden they are about the same. 


The only other possibility is that the people of japan truly have more demand for cameras than use as the company recognizes it. 

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 07:58:43 AM »
3.300 Euro or 4.363,-- USD in Germany

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 08:09:44 AM »
On Finland preorder prices, what I have found, varies from 2999€ to 3800€ (4000$-5000$) for body only.

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 09:20:35 AM »
So if you take 3299 EUR MSRP, make -20% from there it goes 2640 EUR, which at today's rate is 3511 USD
so no surpriese here!
Sorry to prove you wrong. You have your calculations wrong:
To subtract the 20% tax you'll have to calculate
3299/1.20 = 2749€ which would be 3633$. 133$ or 3.8% more expensive than in the US.

You wrongly calculated
3299*.80 = 2640€ wich would be a tax-rate of 3299/2640 => 25%

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Re: Why the Japan hate Canon
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 09:20:35 AM »