Anyone sad about no T4i/650D announcement

[malasuerte]

I saw strange offers in eBay... 60D with EF 50mm F/1.8 II for just US $899.00. Also Rebel t3i w/ EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS for just US $599.99. Wonder what this means...

[kdsand]

If anyone thinks the only advantage to the 7D is the AF points they aren't paying attention. Good Grief!

 While the auto focus points may not be the only advantage they're definitely the biggest advantage over the 60 d.
 

[briansquibb]

If anyone thinks the only advantage to the 7D is the AF points they aren't paying attention. Good Grief!

 While the auto focus points may not be the only advantage they're definitely the biggest advantage over the 60 d.

+1 for the most amusing comment of the evening

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Canon would not announce the T4i at the same time as the 5D MK III.  It would just get lost in the noise.  It will be announced in such a manner that it can get some headlines, so don't worry.  Don't expect a big upgrade either, just a few improvements and a higher price.

[roombarobot]

It would seem a bit odd to release a 3rd rebel with the same sensor, no?

Yes, as much as I don't like it, I am guessing that they might update the 7D and one or more of the X0D bodies first with a new sensor, then have the new sensor trickle down to the rebel line.   

[peederj]

What I would be excited about in a 650D...apart from the touchscreen capability that has already been leaked...would be the Dig!c5 and if it has the ability to do the lens correction that the 5d3 has. Chromatic abberation, distortion, as well as the 600D's vignetting ("peripheral illumination") correction. And could do so in video mode too. That would make all my EF-S lenses worth more just by buying the body.

And since the Micro-4/3rds cameras have this functionality, Canon would want to add it to stay relevant. I don't know the details of how it works, but if it could be just stored as a starting point when editing RAW stills, so much the better.

Also streaming full-res video out the mini HDMI port would be terrific. The 600D had 3x-10x digital zoom (and the 3X form eliminated the line-skipping moire problem!) on the video, which broke new ground. So 1080p at 60fps? Sure why not that too...and for the skateboard shooter the smaller body would be exactly what they'd want.

There's no reason why the 650D couldn't lead the line in some ways technologically, even if that makes the more expensive bodies seem less-featured. Because the Rebel line is competing against Sony and Panasonic and Samsung, who have bells and whistles on their side. Canon has glass.

[phemark]

Has anyone heard any recent rumors about 650D?

March 2nd was CR2, so it cant be far away...

[ThuiQuaDayNe]

Prediction:

1. Digic 5 (better iso)
2. 4 fps
3. Same 18 MP sensor
4. a little bit better AF
5. still 1080p/24 video but with AF, no touch screen
6. $899 body , $999 with kit lens ( same as sony a65)
7. June 2012 release date

Performance cannot be as good as current 60D/7D until those are refreshed.

[dichiaras]

If the sensor is the same I would feel compelled to get a Nikon D5100, which has a hugely better ISO, dynamic range, and color depth, for 750 USD. Or I simply save money (and avoid buying and selling 4 lenses) by getting a Canon 550D.

[roombarobot]

If the sensor is the same I would feel compelled to get a Nikon D5100, which has a hugely better ISO, dynamic range, and color depth, for 750 USD. Or I simply save money (and avoid buying and selling 4 lenses) by getting a Canon 550D.

I wasn't under the impression that the D5100 was hugely better than the t3i.  This line in the dpreview review made me think that sticking with Canon might be better for me:

We are left with a lingering worry, though, that the D5100's entry-level ergonomics might not prove quite so adaptable to the evolving needs of a first-time DSLR buyer as a camera like the Canon EOS 600D/Rebel T3.

Since I sold my Rebel XTi and am going to buy a new dslr, I'd welcome advice on the t3i/t4i vs. D5100, anyone have info to share?

Thanks!

[sama]

Prediction:

1. Digic 5 (better iso)
2. 4 fps
3. Same 18 MP sensor
4. a little bit better AF
5. still 1080p/24 video but with AF, no touch screen
6. $899 body , $999 with kit lens ( same as sony a65)
7. June 2012 release date



Performance cannot be as good as current 60D/7D until those are refreshed.

or may be a 24 MP sensor if nothing revolutionary offered - just to please the "more MPs" likers

[dichiaras]

Since I sold my Rebel XTi and am going to buy a new dslr, I'd welcome advice on the t3i/t4i vs. D5100, anyone have info to share?

You can just look here

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-600d-vs-Nikon-D5100

Image quality of the D5100 is indeed superior to that of the 600D, but I expect the t4i/650D will be much better simply because technology is there, so why not to use it?

[roombarobot]

Wow, there is so much out there it is hard for me to digest it all!

I have mostly been a Canon-guy, I have had several PowerShots, my Rebel XTi, and an s95, so I do really like Canon.  I've never owned a Nikon, but I don't know what to make of this:
http://testcams.com/blog/2011/05/03/nikon-dx-vs-canon-aps-c-dynamic-range/

Do you all believe it?

[Hesbehindyou]

I have mostly been a Canon-guy, I have had several PowerShots, my Rebel XTi, and an s95, so I do really like Canon.  I've never owned a Nikon, but I don't know what to make of this:
http://testcams.com/blog/2011/05/03/nikon-dx-vs-canon-aps-c-dynamic-range/

Do you all believe it?

The noise levels in the Canon look right - I get the same when I push things too far in post.  I don't have a camera with a newer Sony sensor so I do not know whether they Nikon's performance is kosher.  On the cause of it he said:

[he's talking about noise visible in heavily underexposed parts of a photo that have been pushed 5 stops in post. Rebel users will recognise it; red blotchiness coupled with a crosshatch pattern or grid. About 3 minutes in to the second video, though I recommend people watch all three]

"The crosshatch pattern is caused because the individual channels on the Canon body [think he's talking about the sensor] are not perfectly matched and so, outside of the difference of noise that you can see in those channels, the difference in actual signals and how they are read off the sensor is different and that's what creates this repeating cross hatch pattern of these vertical and horizontal lines.

Some of the noise levels for these different channels are dipping below the threshold of what the RAW processor in lightroom can actually produce to recreate the colour and that's what's causing the blotchiness in this case."

[00Q]

I cant careless about the T4i. Why would you?

It is not a camera to "upgrade to". It is a camera that one gets when starting photography. And is also the camera to get ripped off on. If you want to start photography, get a second hand 450D. If you want video, get a 550D second hand. Put all the money into lenses.

These new 600D, 650Ds are there to tempt noobs into photography. Not for someone whos already got a dslr to get. If you do, that makes you ultra noob.