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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2012, 03:42:50 AM »
I'd be surprised if changing a focusing screen would void the warranty.  With my camera, the procedure is listed in the manual. If they didn't want you to do this, why would they be telling you how to do it? 

As mentioned above, different screens can affect metering and the manual gives some suggestions on how to work around this. 
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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2012, 03:42:50 AM »

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2012, 03:56:53 AM »
I'd be surprised if changing a focusing screen would void the warranty.  With my camera, the procedure is listed in the manual. If they didn't want you to do this, why would they be telling you how to do it? 

As mentioned above, different screens can affect metering and the manual gives some suggestions on how to work around this.

that is only the case for cameras with interchangeable screens. the 5D Mark III's screen is fixed.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2012, 07:07:37 AM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned George's camera store in Sydney.

http://www.georges.com.au

There Australian, they had the Canon rep in there yesterday, and they're selling for the same price as Grey.

I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2012, 08:02:34 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2012, 08:14:19 AM »
Got the phone call today that Leederville's stock has arrived.  Paid in full and it will be on it's way! Only problem is that I have to wait now for it to be shipped from WA to VIC.  Air freight might take two days before I get it.  Question is, will I get it before the weekend.  I HOPE SO!

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2012, 08:36:29 AM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned George's camera store in Sydney.

http://www.georges.com.au

There Australian, they had the Canon rep in there yesterday, and they're selling for the same price as Grey.

I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

Georges price for 5dIII isn't that great ($3872)

Compare that to leederville on $3599 with small delivery charge and discountcameras on $3662.08 or $5743.28 with 24-70 II (+free delivery)

Both australian stockists

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2012, 08:38:06 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

they started selling grey imports of nikon/canon cameras. Eventually nikon agreed to match grey pricing for australian retailers + change warranty to 2 yrs so that consumers would support local retailers.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2012, 08:38:06 AM »

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2012, 09:00:32 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

they started selling grey imports of nikon/canon cameras. Eventually nikon agreed to match grey pricing for australian retailers + change warranty to 2 yrs so that consumers would support local retailers.

I didn't know JB's Canon gear is grey?

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #98 on: March 21, 2012, 10:28:58 AM »

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2012, 04:54:33 PM »
I didn't know JB's Canon gear is grey?

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Wow! So their grey stock is online only and from what I understand the prices don't include GST.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2012, 07:20:24 PM »
5D II is $1998.

No direct import 5DIII yet.  Will be interesting to see if they can beat Leederville's price by much.
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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2012, 07:46:44 PM »
Well I picked Mine up yesterday afternoon! I'm not going to start ANOTHER "ZOMG I GOT MY MK3!!!!" thread so i'll post my initial thougths here I havent used it extensively yet but these are my initial feelings

BUILD

Well they have really stepped up to the plate here this is exactly what i've been looking for and it's about as close as we are going to get to a grippless 1D build quality very nice very sold AND its got a proper door over the memory cards rather than that horrid plastic thing on the 5D2.

Its a little smaller than the mk2 and more rounded, the roundedness is nice and feels very modern next to the 5D2, i was a bit worried about it being smaller but its ok for me (I really would not want it any smaller though as the space between the right hand grip and the lens has shrunk a little and any smaller and it will be very cramped with fat lenses on, as it is I think its at the limit.
My hands are large so i find rebels too small peopel with bigger hands might find the 5Dmk3 a little cramped compared to the 5d Mk2.
but smaller means it fits in my bag easier too.
New on off switch position will take some getting used to as i have been used to them down the bottom on 1D and on 5D2 i know some people didnt like this for me its a non issue it is where it is
I love the mode dial lock - LOVE IT!

the new button layout seems nice and well thought out so many nice options now much more 1D like, 1 in particular is the ability to specifiy which wheel controls AV and TV in manual mode something i missed on the 5D2 so i had to reconfigure my 1D to function the same as the 5D2 and adjust my shooting.

Everything feels like the quality level has been brought up a notch or 2 - Well done Canon!

VIEWFINDER

Well this was a suprise, I was expecting to be let down here and I have to say I am impressed it leaves the 5Dmk2 VF for dead,
It is soooo much bigger and brighter. For manual focusing I would put it closer to the standard 1D screen than the 5Dmk2. It handily beats the 5Dmk2 even with an EG-S screen in it. Really nice improvement!
the ability to add in grid lines in the VF - Lovely
the new eyepiece is much improved over the 5Dmk2 eyepiece but its still too close to the body so big noses still rub the screen. :P
even in extremely low light I could MF with my sigma 85mm f1.4 on, no problem
I dont think i will worry about a replacement screen, I may look at a brightscreen for 1 of the 5dmk2s if i keep it
Look at all those AF points! and the coverage. massive massive improvement.

AF PERFORMANCE

Well i havent given it much of a work out but I did do some low light testing of the AF with the sigma 85 and in no light other than a TV on in the same room iso 25600 1/100 sec f1.4 AF locked on... not fast but it locked on I would say it took maybe 5 times longer than normal to lock on but bearing in mind this was in next to zero light other than light spill from a TV. outer points have no problem locking on in dim and low light - YAY!
AF point spread is so nice FINALLY! a decent AF in a non 1D body - Well done canon, this really is better than I had hoped for. I can only imagine how good the 1Dx AF is going to be!
I havent tried any AI servo or action stuff only low light at night messing around in the house after do the AF micro adjusting on all my lenses.
AF microadjust is really nice now the wide tele seperate adjusts are really really nice. I found the adjustments needed on the 5Dmk3 were very similar to those I had on my mk2.
I haven't done it super rigorously just an inital setup. Maybe i'll get that automatic AF adjust software and try that out.

SCREENS
both the new back and top screens are bigger and very nice bummer that the top screen lights up orange i prefer the blue of the 1D but that is hardly a deal breaker! :P
the rear screen is big very clear and sharp. now i just need to wait for protectors to come out for it.

OVERALL
Is it worth it? well In my opinion I was not very happy with the 5Dmk2 in ALOT of areas the IQ made me accept alot of compromises with that camera and I had to adapt my setup and shooting to suit the camera. I feel with this new camera that a veil has been lifted and new freedoms have been opened up. the hand brake has come off and it suddenly got a couple more cylinders firing.
For me the improvements are most definately worth the extra cost. once you feel the differences in a tangible way the spec lists that everyone has painstakingly analysed to death are completely insignificant.

I have not done any IQ comparissons yet but I will in the next few days but even if the IQ if the same as the 5Dmk2 the handling improvements alone make this worthwhile for me however looking at it my gut feel is that it's going to beat the 5Dmk2.

Now i'm going to have to get my wife one or she will steal mine!
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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2012, 09:30:04 PM »
Just an FYI, I saw that Teds in sydney has received shipments of the mark iii and are in stock as of noon today (Thursday). Both the 24-105 kits and body only.

I sadly cannot afford one :(

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2012, 09:30:04 PM »

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2012, 11:12:28 PM »
Just got mine and am very excited but about to do a photo shoot and will be using the MarkII.  I'm too concerned about not being able to use RAW in my workflow.

Anyone who is interested in buying one in Oz, highly recommend Leederville
http://www.leedervillecameras.com.au/
$3599 (inc GST). Great price, real shop, real people, great service and one day turnaround anywhere in Australia.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2012, 12:09:50 AM »
Great post wicked wombat! As I said before, you've put my mind at ease! Had a big grin on my face the whole time reading your post :p Can't wait for mine to arrive next week :)

As per the top screen colour, blue would have been really cool! :D I never knew the 1D was blue, they should have an option in the menu to change the colour of it, surely it wouldn't be that hard to have multiple colours ^.^
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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2012, 12:09:50 AM »