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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #90 on: March 20, 2012, 02:19:31 AM »
3rd party focusing screens?? Im guessing the answer to this one will be, what was the situation with the 5D2 and 7D? It will probably be the same with this as they are basically a combination of this camera now body wise.

The 3rd party screens throw off the camera's metering to some degree.

On the 5d I and II, for instance, you could compensate for the difference via a camera setting, but that would only work accurately for OEM focus screens.

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« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2012, 08:11:32 AM »
What do you mean by manual focusing? as in auto focus during video?

3rd party focusing screens?? Im guessing the answer to this one will be, what was the situation with the 5D2 and 7D? It will probably be the same with this as they are basically a combination of this camera now body wise.

by manual focusing i was talking about the ease of focusing (and judging DOF) using a fast lens with the standard focusing screen. the standard focusing stops accurately showing DOF any wider than f4, so even if you focus accurately on your subject using MF or AF you still won't know how much of your subject is actually in focus.  i agree that the AF is really fast and accurate, but that doesn't help you when you're using a Zeiss prime, for example, or even the 50mm f1.2 if you're using it wide open.

thus why i was wondering about 3rd party screens. if you install a 3rd party matte screen focusing with manual and fast lenses will be a lot easier because DOF will be much easier to see. in addition to what Pyrenees said about metering, the problem with installing a 3rd party screen is potentially voiding your warranty.

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« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2012, 01:53:29 AM »
well, i got a reply from the Canon Australia rep about whether or not changing the focusing screen will void the manufacturer's warranty. it was the typical answer: maybe, maybe not. it depends on what fails.

boooo. ::)

in other news, i received a call from CameraPro saying that i can come pick up my body on Friday. exciting! :D

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2012, 03:00:39 AM »
they are in! i'm going to pick mine up soon:D
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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2012, 03:42:50 AM »
I'd be surprised if changing a focusing screen would void the warranty.  With my camera, the procedure is listed in the manual. If they didn't want you to do this, why would they be telling you how to do it? 

As mentioned above, different screens can affect metering and the manual gives some suggestions on how to work around this. 
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« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2012, 03:56:53 AM »
I'd be surprised if changing a focusing screen would void the warranty.  With my camera, the procedure is listed in the manual. If they didn't want you to do this, why would they be telling you how to do it? 

As mentioned above, different screens can affect metering and the manual gives some suggestions on how to work around this.

that is only the case for cameras with interchangeable screens. the 5D Mark III's screen is fixed.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2012, 07:07:37 AM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned George's camera store in Sydney.

http://www.georges.com.au

There Australian, they had the Canon rep in there yesterday, and they're selling for the same price as Grey.

I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2012, 08:02:34 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

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« Reply #98 on: March 21, 2012, 08:14:19 AM »
Got the phone call today that Leederville's stock has arrived.  Paid in full and it will be on it's way! Only problem is that I have to wait now for it to be shipped from WA to VIC.  Air freight might take two days before I get it.  Question is, will I get it before the weekend.  I HOPE SO!

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« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2012, 08:36:29 AM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned George's camera store in Sydney.

http://www.georges.com.au

There Australian, they had the Canon rep in there yesterday, and they're selling for the same price as Grey.

I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

Georges price for 5dIII isn't that great ($3872)

Compare that to leederville on $3599 with small delivery charge and discountcameras on $3662.08 or $5743.28 with 24-70 II (+free delivery)

Both australian stockists

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2012, 08:38:06 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

they started selling grey imports of nikon/canon cameras. Eventually nikon agreed to match grey pricing for australian retailers + change warranty to 2 yrs so that consumers would support local retailers.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2012, 09:00:32 AM »
I think after what JB Hifi did, they're going to bow a little to pressures.

What did JB Hifi do?

they started selling grey imports of nikon/canon cameras. Eventually nikon agreed to match grey pricing for australian retailers + change warranty to 2 yrs so that consumers would support local retailers.

I didn't know JB's Canon gear is grey?

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« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2012, 10:28:58 AM »

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« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2012, 04:54:33 PM »
I didn't know JB's Canon gear is grey?

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Wow! So their grey stock is online only and from what I understand the prices don't include GST.

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Re: How is Canon going to compete with the grey market in Australia?
« Reply #104 on: March 21, 2012, 07:20:24 PM »
5D II is $1998.

No direct import 5DIII yet.  Will be interesting to see if they can beat Leederville's price by much.
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