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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 03:27:26 AM »
Cinema EOS or not, at the end of the day it's a DSLR!
There's no chance that it will feature a 8MP sensor.

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 04:05:49 AM »
Maybe the story of the 650 continues  ;) 25 years EOS story and now the new 650d the best DSLR camera for filming ever.

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 05:47:42 AM »
A strange one this...

The C300 is top of the line cinema, so the new DSLR, has to be somewhat inferior to it - especially if we are to expect it to be cheaper.

The 5D3 is basically a merging of the 5D2 and 7D cameras and lines.  The 1Dx is now the sports action camera, so the space remains for the "Studio" version of a DSLR with a full-featured video spec, in a 1D-type body...  What with Nikons's D800, it would not surprise me to see a very high resolution stills camera with high-res video...

Speculation, speculation...

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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 11:28:28 AM »
Canon's screenings at SXSW this week have been billed as "exclusive", but by going to the Imagin8ion room in the Driscoll, you can get a ticket. They're all part of the Ron Howard project filmed on the C300.

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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2012, 12:05:15 PM »
The question then will be will they bother?

True 4K HD is still at least 4-5 years away.
Even LG's new 4K tv's are of the 3840x2160 resolution (or if you play back a 3D blue ray disc you get dual 1080p screens instead of dual 540p on a standard Full HD 1080 screen when playing 3D)

Once there is a market for such stupidly high resolutions, i.e. when we have somewhere to display them where we don't have to sit on top of the screen to see the benefit. Then and only then will companies like Canon will come out with a true 4K camera.

It will be 8MP, there is no need for any more than that, its not meant to be a stills camera and the pictures you see are basically production stills to help with lighting and framing etc.

They don't need to be super detailed.

One of the reasons we shoot in 4K is for cropping and stabilization purposes.  If we're delivering 1080p and shooting 1080p we have no latitude to change the framing, or to cut out the borders to stabilize a shaky shot if it was handheld or vehicle mounted.  With 4K we get a lot more choices in post.

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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2012, 12:40:49 PM »
The question then will be will they bother?

True 4K HD is still at least 4-5 years away.
Even LG's new 4K tv's are of the 3840x2160 resolution (or if you play back a 3D blue ray disc you get dual 1080p screens instead of dual 540p on a standard Full HD 1080 screen when playing 3D)

Once there is a market for such stupidly high resolutions, i.e. when we have somewhere to display them where we don't have to sit on top of the screen to see the benefit. Then and only then will companies like Canon will come out with a true 4K camera.

It will be 8MP, there is no need for any more than that, its not meant to be a stills camera and the pictures you see are basically production stills to help with lighting and framing etc.

They don't need to be super detailed.

One of the reasons we shoot in 4K is for cropping and stabilization purposes.  If we're delivering 1080p and shooting 1080p we have no latitude to change the framing, or to cut out the borders to stabilize a shaky shot if it was handheld or vehicle mounted.  With 4K we get a lot more choices in post.

+1000000000000000000

Delivery format need not be the same as acquisition format.

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 12:59:59 PM »
The question then will be will they bother?

True 4K HD is still at least 4-5 years away.
Even LG's new 4K tv's are of the 3840x2160 resolution (or if you play back a 3D blue ray disc you get dual 1080p screens instead of dual 540p on a standard Full HD 1080 screen when playing 3D)

Once there is a market for such stupidly high resolutions, i.e. when we have somewhere to display them where we don't have to sit on top of the screen to see the benefit. Then and only then will companies like Canon will come out with a true 4K camera.

It will be 8MP, there is no need for any more than that, its not meant to be a stills camera and the pictures you see are basically production stills to help with lighting and framing etc.

They don't need to be super detailed.

One of the reasons we shoot in 4K is for cropping and stabilization purposes.  If we're delivering 1080p and shooting 1080p we have no latitude to change the framing, or to cut out the borders to stabilize a shaky shot if it was handheld or vehicle mounted.  With 4K we get a lot more choices in post.

Exactly. You have that master shot where the actor gave an amazing performance and your CU shots isn't as good. With 4K you can create a CU shot from that master shot by cropping in. That's what is awesome.

You can shoot 4k, edit, and perhaps output in 1080p for amazing resolution. Basically you have options with 4K.

Hopefully this isn't just the Ron Howard screening. Hoping to see this camera.

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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 01:51:58 PM »
A strange one this...

The C300 is top of the line cinema, so the new DSLR, has to be somewhat inferior to it - especially if we are to expect it to be cheaper.

The 5D3 is basically a merging of the 5D2 and 7D cameras and lines.  The 1Dx is now the sports action camera, so the space remains for the "Studio" version of a DSLR with a full-featured video spec, in a 1D-type body...  What with Nikons's D800, it would not surprise me to see a very high resolution stills camera with high-res video...

Lets hope that Canon takes on a similar direction to Nikon and does the "studio DSLR" in a normal body rather than a 1D style body.

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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 01:11:22 AM »
Canon's screenings at SXSW this week have been billed as "exclusive", but by going to the Imagin8ion room in the Driscoll, you can get a ticket. They're all part of the Ron Howard project filmed on the C300.

I think you are right. The word "screening" says it all, doesn't it? I don't get why so many people here are convinced this is a camera launch. Am I missing something?
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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2012, 05:50:34 AM »
I've been invited directly from Canon too, same day but the even will be held in Rome, Italy inside the studios.
It looks like it's going to be more something about trying the new 5D Mk III and 1DX, I don't know if there will be something more.
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2012, 10:42:08 AM »
I expect it to be in the $4,000 - $6,000 range to compete with the FS100. The C300 competes with the F3.

+1, just because it's 4k doesn't mean it's going to be absurdly expensive.  Technology is getting cheaper by the day, and it's just a DSLR body with a different sensor.  If you took a 1DX ($6800), removed the 12FPS, the AF system, and the mirror (in favor of evf) and swap the sensor.  I mean a true video DSLR that all of the photography features are removed from.  I just don't see what you could add to that camera to justify a $10k price tag.  Absolutely no way it will be more than the C300 though, I'll bet anything on that.

I feel like the only reason they even previewed that camera at the C300 event was to appease the "little people" that were disappointed that the C300 was way out of their price range.  I mean why show a product that early in development and take away the surprise from an official announcement?

This worries me a lot. Am I the only person in the world who wants an awesome hybrid camera? What I was hoping the 1DX would be. There's no headphones and no clean hdmi out. It's an awesome stills camera though. Then if you want more video features you have to jump (if you stay with canon) to the C300 which can't take a great photograph.

I don't want a cheap 4k concept camera. I want a $12-$13k sick HYBRID DSLR that does everything we know canon is capable of doing at this price range. I work in some extreme environments and my clients include Red Bull; I'm not usually in a position to have two bodies, or even two photographers, in some locations because sometimes you get the shot by pure magic. With Canon EVERY SHOOT HAS BECOME A COMPROMISE.

So I was rather hoping the concept camera would be the top of their hybrid line. From many comments here I'd say I might be wrong, or that the date has nothing to do with the physical camera but a film. Maybe canon won't make this camera because my segment is too small. I think it's because they sell pro video gear too.

I have four busted 5D mkiis and have to reinvest right now. (I also have a broken 5D underwater housing) The timing is very interesting for me right now. RIGHT NOW the best hybrid camera appears, to me, to be the Nikon D4. And part of me is suspicious that Nikon have decided that because they don't produce video cameras at all, they aren't going to hold back.

I've pre-ordered two D4s and some glass and will see how that fares.

DISCLAIMER: (1) I am not trying to start some sort of Nikon / Canon war here. I am really just expressing my frustration at what might seem to be a unique situation (not IMO at least). I am VERY interested to hear from others in a similar situation. (2) My studio does a lot of commercial work too an we've enjoyed the relatively high bit rate on the Canon 5D mkii despite the moire etc. see our work at www.jtography.com

I'm only entertaining Nikon because we'll use the atoms ninjas on safer sets and in studio for clean hdmi - Something I felt that canon out to have offered us right now. Oh and I'm looking forward to sharing the live view on clients' iPads on set too. I felt that was a neat way of circumnavigating the small screen issues of DSLRs. ...there were a lot of factors.

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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2012, 12:10:14 PM »
I think Canon Will never release the T4i/650D! It is very late now. If in April they are planing to release the 4k camera or whatever  then there isn't time to release the T4i anytime soon. I don't like that but looks like true!

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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2012, 05:24:24 PM »
Really enjoyed the shout-out from Canon Rumors guy but I have to say after contemplating this and looking around the internets, I'm not getting the impression that it's part of the Canon/Ron Howard Imagi8ion project.

Canon did a special promo in Austin, TX this weekend on the Imagi8ion project. Logos and invites seem quite different.

I won't rule it out completely, but I'm thinking that's probably not the point of this promotion. I do think it will be video related, but whether it's hardware or a new promotion, I guess we'll have to wait to see (unless Canon Rumors Guy tells us early.)
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Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »
Swap a new censor into the 1dx and you get your 4k dslr.  I agree with the previous posters who say it will be 4-6K in price. They want to undercut RED.

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