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Gear upgrade. Is 7D still worth buying?

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smirkypants:

--- Quote from: crasher7 on March 10, 2012, 07:12:10 PM ---If you know what you're doing you can shoot the worlds greatest photographs with 50 year old equipment. Oh yeah, not many here shoot film, ok, 8 year old digi. 3 years old is too old? You drank the kool aid.

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I think you're missing the point. I'm actually saying that the photographer can take fine pictures with the camera in hand, right? The glass will make a bigger difference. The 7D2 will almost certainly have lower noise and better ISO performance, so why not hold off? Why pay full price for last year's model when what you're driving now is fine?

jwong:

--- Quote from: smirkypants on March 10, 2012, 07:19:34 PM ---I think you're missing the point. I'm actually saying that the photographer can take fine pictures with the camera in hand, right? The glass will make a bigger difference. The 7D2 will almost certainly have lower noise and better ISO performance, so why not hold off? Why pay full price for last year's model when what you're driving now is fine?

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+1.  Lenses do make more of a difference than bodies most of the time.  I have a 6+ year old 20D, and I tried out a friend's 7D.  The 7D had 18MP versus my 8MP, but noisewise, it was a little less than one stop better when processed in LR at ISO 1600.  I was shocked.  That is one reason why I'm thinking about moving FF -- larger sensor size, larger pixels and hopefully better noise/high ISO performance than APS-C.

nitsujwalker:

--- Quote from: smirkypants on March 10, 2012, 06:40:17 PM ---Hate to be the naysayer here, but the 7D is three year old tech and the camera in hand is fine. I would upgrade the glass for now, and in a year or so upgrade to the 7D2. In the near term the better glass will make a bigger difference, and in a year the wait will have been worth it... unless Canon charges 80% more for the 7D2.

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I have to disagree.  If better autofocus is needed then the 7D is the way to go as new glass won't help significantly in this area. 

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And I don't mean for this to sound harsh.  Only that there may be reasons other than IQ to upgrade.

Marsu42:

--- Quote from: jwong on March 10, 2012, 07:55:25 PM ---I have a 6+ year old 20D, and I tried out a friend's 7D.  The 7D had 18MP versus my 8MP, but noisewise, it was a little less than one stop better when processed in LR at ISO 1600.  I was shocked.

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Canon states that higher mp is for cropping - so your observation is in line with this. 8mp would be not enough for me because I often crop, rotate, convert horizontal to vertical or 2:3 to 16:9.  And up to iso 800, the current 18mp sensor is ok.

The strange thing about Canon is that they differentiate between their bodies by build quality and af, so the 7D has the same sensor as the 550d. Thus, if you are set on the best iq it is advisable to get a better lens and a body that is still usable for an advanced user (did I mention the 60d lately :-p). You only need to predict how often you shoot complex moving object scenes or in the rain (with weather sealed lenses, of course!). If yes get the 7d.

crasher7:

--- Quote from: smirkypants on March 10, 2012, 07:19:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: crasher7 on March 10, 2012, 07:12:10 PM ---If you know what you're doing you can shoot the worlds greatest photographs with 50 year old equipment. Oh yeah, not many here shoot film, ok, 8 year old digi. 3 years old is too old? You drank the kool aid.

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I think you're missing the point. I'm actually saying that the photographer can take fine pictures with the camera in hand, right? The glass will make a bigger difference. The 7D2 will almost certainly have lower noise and better ISO performance, so why not hold off? Why pay full price for last year's model when what you're driving now is fine?

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When you put it that way sure! But your initial post did not convey that message well.

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