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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2012, 03:58:24 PM »
Great shot, I am curious about the stars however. Did you really manage to capture them like that on the photo or did you add them in post?

This is my attempt at a moon shot two days earlier:




@Forcetlow: Could you please tell which you used for this picture (I am guessing you used canon 7D as the camera)? It is so clear!! Fantastic capture.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2012, 03:58:24 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2012, 01:13:04 AM »
Thank you :)

I used my 7D in combination with the Canon 100-400 L and my Sigma 2x extender. Originally I did not even want to buy that extender again, but since I saw a used one in a store for a real bargain I thought what the heck. (Especially since it was the same price as the cash back I'll get from Canon for my 100-400)
I would not have thought it would be possible to get this much detail out of the two, but apparently you can. It is pretty difficult to work with however. At 800mm the moon moves very fast through the VF and AF is of course not functional at f/11. Even though I have a pretty sturdy tripod was I really glad to have IS in the 100-400 else MF would have been next to impossible as well. I had to resort to using Live View with maximum magnification to get the best focus, but at that setting the image will really shake immensely even from just touching the lens. It was quite a pain, but from the result I would say it was also worth it.

The Image has been cropped to 2778x1852 and then resized to 1920x1280, so be sure to enjoy the full view of it.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2012, 01:35:59 AM »
@forceflow: What shutter speed did you take it at? It is a beautiful shot.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2012, 02:21:58 AM »
@forceflow: What shutter speed did you take it at? It is a beautiful shot.

I have to look that one up once I am back home. Due to some bad layering in PS exif data is not correct. I think it was taken somewhere between 1/100 and 1/200 I think. But I'll check it later tonight!
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2012, 03:10:45 AM »
@Forceflow:Wow,what a beautiful and sharp moon photo.I am a guy retiring soon and plan to take up photography as my main pursuit. I got a 7D last year and a 100-400L 3 months ago since I'm interested in birds and wildlife photos. When I read about 5 May supermoon, I tried to shoot it and it looks alright but not anything close to your gorgeous photo. I am learning pp (in DPP) but haven't used PS or LR yet, but will eventually when I learn how. Could you tell me what your camera settings were and how do you use pp to enhance a moon shoot. I don't know how to tell if my 100-400 is a good copy or not or if (as I suspect) any blurred out of focus shots are a result of my novice level. Also, I shot handheld and need to buy a good tripod. What tripod did you use? Thanks for posting that photo. I've been reading this forum for several weeks and joined today because of that photo. I'll try to attach my best shoot. 7D, 100-400L, handheld (braced against my car hood), jpeg,pp using DPP to sharpen and adjust contrast.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2012, 11:37:55 AM »
@serendipidy: Thanks for the praise :) I am really glad how this one turned out myself, would not have thought I could get one that sharp. I do have to say that I really like your shot as well, especially considering it was your first attempt and even handheld! Great work!
Do keep in mind however that I have taken that shot using my 2x converter together with the 100-400. So my camera settings might not be too useful for you. (And of course you wont be able to achieve the same level magnification)

Turns out the image I used was actually one of the really slow ones. It was indeed taken at 1/15s with an aperture of f/18. The camera was set to ISO 100. Camera RAW settings (PS 6 demo version) were as followed:
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Exposure -0.5
Clarity +30
Tone Curve
Lights -20
Darks -20
Shadows -30
Detail
Luminance 30
Lens Corrections
Set the right lens and checked Remove Chromatic Aberrations also set Defringe to All Edges

All other Values were the default ones. All I ended up doing in Photoshop itself was to crop and resize the image. The tripod I used is the MANFRETTO 550XPROB with a 804RC2 head. It's on the heavy side, but really sturdy and quite affordable. Hope this helps!
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2012, 03:57:14 PM »
@Forceflow: Thanks for the info. Next step is for me to get a good tripod and ballhead and I've also been thinking about a Canon 1.4 extender. I think I'm starting to get the addiction :D
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2012, 04:47:15 PM »
I think I'm starting to get the addiction :D

At least you'll get something longer lasting and more meaningful than most other addictions ;)  Plus you can sometimes convince people to pay you to do what you're addicted to!
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2012, 05:43:03 PM »
Great Shot John!

A couple of days earlier. Tried the 100-400 with 2x iii but I could not get it to focus well handheld... so I took the 2x off and shot straight AF from the 100-400. And went wild on PP sharpening. Next time I hope I have a tripod on me...


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« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2012, 06:02:45 PM »
@ K-amps: You did that handheld?  Geeze...... You don't need a tripod.  I took another one yesterday and got it sharper but I shot it at 1/1000th and with mirror lock.  It was sharper but not as sharp as Forceflow's.  I think Forceflow used a high ladder to take his with. 
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2012, 06:04:17 PM »
@ K-amps: what program did you use in post to sharpen?
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2012, 08:42:08 PM »
@ K amps

Why only ISO 160?  Crank it up to 1000 and you'll get a much faster shot.  You have a 5D3, so take advantage of it!

One thing that I learned with the 100-400 ( at the 400 end), is that speed is key, and f/5.6 is next to useless.  Before you ask, I did micro adjust it.

Put it at f/7.1 - f/9, get your shot to at least 1/640, and shots look amazing with that lens.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #57 on: May 08, 2012, 09:53:01 PM »
Very nice shots everybody and thanks for posting.  I've been out shooting the last three nights myself but haven't had a chance to even pull them from card.  Out of town right now so it probably won't be until Friday night until I can view them.

Anyway I was impressed with how sharp those images are with slow shutter speeds (1/15 I believe in one case) and some hand held.  I'm still trying to learn what are the best settings and methods for shooting the moon.

I'm using a 7D with 70-200 f/4 IS lens and some are shot with a 1.4 II.  I'm shooting in M at ISO 400, trying to keep the shutter above 250, AV between f/4 ~ f/8, and exposure bracketing.  I did a series focusing using LV, AF single point, and then just setting the lens to the infinity mark (vertical line of the "L").  I am surprised how hard it is to get a pin point focus, it almost seems that AF is easier and more reliable than manual focus--of course I'm just going off my LCD since I haven't viewed them yet in LR.  You would think you could set your lens to infinity and be good but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Oh and yes, I'm using a sturdy tripod and the Canon ($$) tripod ring for my 70-200, and IS turned off.

Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.  BTW, my skies have been a little hazy so I'm not expecting any stars like Westr70's excellent shot.

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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2012, 12:27:51 AM »
Good point about bracketing RC.  I'm going to have to try that.  Can't wait to see your photos.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2012, 01:36:06 AM »
@ K-amps: You did that handheld?  Geeze...... You don't need a tripod.  I took another one yesterday and got it sharper but I shot it at 1/1000th and with mirror lock.  It was sharper but not as sharp as Forceflow's.  I think Forceflow used a high ladder to take his with.

Uhm... no ladder was involved, but it was taken from my balcony on the 2nd floor with my MANFRETTO 550XPROB tripod with the 804RC2 head.

For the best possible quality you need a tripod and I would always use the lowest ISO possible. Even at 1/15th with 800mm the moon does not move so fast as to get a blurry image. Also I highly suggest using LiveView with maximum magnification to get the absolute best possible focus. Normally I hate LV, but for this I find it's an absolute must.
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Re: Canon 100-400 mm 4.5 - 5.6, May 5th Moon
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2012, 01:36:06 AM »