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24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« on: March 15, 2012, 04:22:53 PM »
I have the 24-70 2.8 L II on preorder and dying to see som test shots with this lens and if possibly mounted on the 5D mrk III (which I also have on preorder).

Has anyone here seen images and/or impressions posted yet?

Secondly, has the availability date for the lens been confirmed anywhere yet?

Thanks!
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24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« on: March 15, 2012, 04:22:53 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 05:22:51 PM »
That's quite a handsome couple you have on preorder there.  :)  If I had both of those and a 70-200 f/2.8L II, Yikes! Good for you (well, almost anyways!) :-)

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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 03:22:50 PM »
These are the only pictures that I've been able to find online. There are also RAW files you can download which uses the lens. Unfortunately they subject is not the best for judging corner to corner sharpness.

http://lightingmods.blogspot.com/2012/03/hands-on-5d-markiii-24-70-28-usm-l-ii_15.html?utm_


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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 12:21:21 AM »
I have the 24-70 2.8 L II on preorder and dying to see som test shots with this lens and if possibly mounted on the 5D mrk III (which I also have on preorder).

Has anyone here seen images and/or impressions posted yet?

Secondly, has the availability date for the lens been confirmed anywhere yet?

Thanks!
When you receive your lens and 5dmkiii PLZ post some pics of just about everyone types of photography, or just like post some pics of portraits, sports, landscape/cityscape, street, etc coz I'm considering getting the 24-70mm 2.8mkii (would also like to own the 5dmkiii even though I don't need it nor have the money for it).

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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 01:35:14 AM »
Would you believe I bought a 24-70 f/2.8 MkI on the MORNING of the day the new lens was announced. It was my third 24-70 f/2.8, the previous two being huge disappointments especially on FF. The new lens is a little better, the later builds have ironed out most of the bugs.

If the MkII lens lives up to the pre-release hype it should be a "must have" lens. I'll wait to see samples of RAW images and read credible reviews before taking an inevitable hit on the MkI to update to the new lens.

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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 02:24:48 AM »
I remember April 17 to be the official release date...
1DX | 14 2.8L II | 16-35 2.8L II | 24 1.4L II | 24-70 2.8L II | ZE 35 2.0 | ZE 50 2.0 | 85 1.2L II | 100 2.8L IS | 135 2.0L | 70-200 2.8L IS II | 200 F2.0L IS | 300 2.8L IS II | 400 2.8L IS II | 500 4.0L IS

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 09:03:32 AM »
I came up with this one question:
-Buy old version of 24-70 f2.8 or wait until II comes out?
Both of them got amazing image quality so any thoughts about this, get older for $1299 or get newer for $2299?

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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 10:14:16 AM »
I came up with this one question:
-Buy old version of 24-70 f2.8 or wait until II comes out?
Both of them got amazing image quality so any thoughts about this, get older for $1299 or get newer for $2299?

Depends what the extra $1000 means to you.  If by spending the extra $1000 you're sacrificing food then buy the cheaper lens but if you're spouse will just spend the extra money on something silly then definitely go for the Mark II.

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 01:19:36 PM »
There aren't big difference between old and new versions:

- MK2 9 blade diaphragm, MK1 have 8
- MK2 18 elements in 13 gropus, MK1 16 in 13.
- MK2 82mm filter, MK1 77mm
- MK2 Inner focusing with USM, MK1 front focusing method
- MK2 805g, MK1 950g

So is $1000 worth to cover those changes

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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 06:16:47 PM »
Thanks to u all for your replies and the links :)

I've also seen April 17th stated on B&H as official release date, which means I will have to wait for another month before I can get my hands on that, let alone try it out with the Mrk III   :'(

The MTF charts for the 24-70 L Mrk II are posted here: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_24_70mm_f_2_8l_ii_usm

I compared it at the wide end to the new 24 2.8 IS and at the tele end to the 70-200 L IS Mrk II. You can see a side by side comparison in the attached word doc. (I coundn't figure out how to display a screen capture) and all I can say is that I am blown away at the results. Resolution and contrast wise the 24-70 beats the socks off both of these at 2.8 !! If real world tests get anywhere close, Canon sure has a winner - I would go as far as to say that the price point may actually be justified :)
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Re: 24-70 2.8 L II - any images/first impressions online?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 06:41:26 PM »
There aren't big difference between old and new versions:

- MK2 9 blade diaphragm, MK1 have 8
- MK2 18 elements in 13 gropus, MK1 16 in 13.
- MK2 82mm filter, MK1 77mm
- MK2 Inner focusing with USM, MK1 front focusing method
- MK2 805g, MK1 950g

So is $1000 worth to cover those changes

After having five of the old version, I gave up on them.  They were ok, but not so good that I'd keep one.  They also look better on full frame, which tends to be more forgiving of lens flaws.
 
Lens reviewers have had much the same experience, some having had to test multiple lenses in order to find one that was even close to the Canon mtf curves.  Even then, the design itself  results in excessive curvature of field, which means that, at wide apertures, a flat wall will only be in focus at the edges or the center, but not both.  They are better at f/8, but did you pay all that money to get a lens that you had to use at f/8 to hide the curvature of field in depth of field? 
 
The new one better solve those issues, considering the price.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 03:36:16 AM »
There aren't big difference between old and new versions:

- MK2 9 blade diaphragm, MK1 have 8
- MK2 18 elements in 13 gropus, MK1 16 in 13.
- MK2 82mm filter, MK1 77mm
- MK2 Inner focusing with USM, MK1 front focusing method
- MK2 805g, MK1 950g

So is $1000 worth to cover those changes

After having five of the old version, I gave up on them.  They were ok, but not so good that I'd keep one.  They also look better on full frame, which tends to be more forgiving of lens flaws.
 
Lens reviewers have had much the same experience, some having had to test multiple lenses in order to find one that was even close to the Canon mtf curves.  Even then, the design itself  results in excessive curvature of field, which means that, at wide apertures, a flat wall will only be in focus at the edges or the center, but not both.  They are better at f/8, but did you pay all that money to get a lens that you had to use at f/8 to hide the curvature of field in depth of field? 
 
The new one better solve those issues, considering the price.
Yeah that is what has held me back from buying a 24-70mkI coz you get some people saying that it's a 'perfect' walk-about lens and has great focal length, etc but then i hear stories from those like you who dislike the lens coz they cannot find a good copy. With back focussing issues and what have you. I would like to own a 24-70 2.8 lens but cant justify the almost not almost, it is a rip off price point, especially considering it doesnt have IS. if it had IS I would def consider pre-ordering one. If not buying it a few months after its released. Is it worth that extra $1000? canon think so and believe it doesnt need IS even when a lot of photogs in the community wanted IS in the mkii.


EDIT: dunno how or why but this post was posted before i finished :S

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 02:41:50 PM »
There aren't big difference between old and new versions:

- MK2 9 blade diaphragm, MK1 have 8
- MK2 18 elements in 13 gropus, MK1 16 in 13.
- MK2 82mm filter, MK1 77mm
- MK2 Inner focusing with USM, MK1 front focusing method
- MK2 805g, MK1 950g

So is $1000 worth to cover those changes

Keep in mind that some people will feel justified to pay the extra $1000 just merely for the improved image quality (on paper for now that is). The MTF charts look amazing.

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 03:00:46 PM »
There aren't big difference between old and new versions:

- MK2 9 blade diaphragm, MK1 have 8
- MK2 18 elements in 13 gropus, MK1 16 in 13.
- MK2 82mm filter, MK1 77mm
- MK2 Inner focusing with USM, MK1 front focusing method
- MK2 805g, MK1 950g

So is $1000 worth to cover those changes
You missed the most important change, namely the assumed increased sharpness and contrast. For now all we have to go on are MTF charts, but it's a bit silly not mentioning this expected change at all. It's pretty much the only reason why anyone would want this lens (and many people do).

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 03:00:46 PM »