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5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« on: March 15, 2012, 09:57:33 PM »
with the release of the manual it seems that the 5d wont be compatible with UHS-1 SD cards? like this

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-1-Memory-SDSDXPA-016G-X46/dp/B005LFT3MA/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1331862876&sr=1-12

doesnt make much sense. could it be compatible in the future with firmware? i guess it can only go up to 30 mbps instead of 95

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5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« on: March 15, 2012, 09:57:33 PM »

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 10:01:00 PM »
Still scratching my head on this one, too, and Chuck Westfall's response the other day (to why it's not supported) was less than informative to say the least.

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 11:55:02 PM »
According to the 5D3 manual on page 32 "Although the camera does not comply with the UHS (Ultra_high Speed) speed class standard, UHS SDHC/SDXC cards can be used."


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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 12:28:10 AM »
According to the 5D3 manual on page 32 "Although the camera does not comply with the UHS (Ultra_high Speed) speed class standard, UHS SDHC/SDXC cards can be used."

right so it wont utilize the 95mbps speeds.... very confusing as to why it wont

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 01:34:36 AM »
Very confused as well!

The CF slot will support UDMA 7, yet the SD slot won't support UHS-1?

As you say, that defaults a 90MB/s UHS card down to Class 10 speeds...

Apparently, and this is just my opinion, the CF slot is definitely the primary...

The SD slot is there for back-up, WiFi, JPEG's, etc...  But it will not match the CF slot for speed...

But it could have!  That is the strangest past...
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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 01:05:16 PM »
I ordered this SD card. So, we know for absolutely sure it won't work in the 5D III? If so, I gotta return it!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LFT3QG/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 01:24:56 PM »
I ordered this SD card. So, we know for absolutely sure it won't work in the 5D III? If so, I gotta return it!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LFT3QG/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

 It's an awesome card and will work.

 Your paying extra for the speed though and apparently it won't be an added benefit for you.


So stupid so so so so stupid. I have to wonder if it was an engineering decision or a money decision..... :o

 So perhaps the card is a bit like putting a supercharger in your grandmother's car. I just compared the 5 d mark 3 to grandmother's old buick! ;D I bet that's a first.
 :D
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 01:24:56 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 01:55:56 PM »
I ordered this SD card. So, we know for absolutely sure it won't work in the 5D III? If so, I gotta return it!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LFT3QG/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

 It's an awesome card and will work.

 Your paying extra for the speed though and apparently it won't be an added benefit for you.


So stupid so so so so stupid. I have to wonder if it was an engineering decision or a money decision..... :o

 So perhaps the card is a bit like putting a supercharger in your grandmother's car. I just compared the 5 d mark 3 to grandmother's old buick! ;D I bet that's a first.
 :D

Thank you and a perfect analogy. :)

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 02:12:01 PM »
I was thinking of a pro card until good ol' Chuck said no to UHS. I was also on the fence with SD size until I got my hands on the manual and verified I can set video to record to the SD card. I'll be using this card for JPG and video and my CF card for RAW only. http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDXC-UHS-I-SDSDX-064G-x46/dp/B0070WU51U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1331921501&sr=1-1
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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 02:12:55 PM »
Unlike the card, that supercharger should make an improvement to your grandmothers car tho! ;)

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 05:55:10 PM »
OK, so a Sandisk Extreme (not Extreme Pro) will run as fast as the camera will let it then? Amazon UK are doing the 32GB for £37, which is a hell of a deal:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q3C98S/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1

So if it's going to be fast enough, I'll get it.

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 06:25:12 PM »
So perhaps the card is a bit like putting a supercharger in your grandmother's car. I just compared the 5 d mark 3 to grandmother's old buick! ;D I bet that's a first.
 :D

Did someone say supercharger  ;D?


The funny thing is this car is owned by a 70 year-old grandpa.

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 12:29:03 AM »
So perhaps the card is a bit like putting a supercharger in your grandmother's car. I just compared the 5 d mark 3 to grandmother's old buick! ;D I bet that's a first.
 :D

Did someone say supercharger  ;D?


The funny thing is this car is owned by a 70 year-old grandpa.

70 and its even tricked out. I bet he's a real character.  8)
 I bet it lopes while idling like a son of a gun.
 I shudder to think how fast that would drain a tank of gas. Likely takes high octane or even aviation fuel. Couple tanks of fuel down the line you could've haved yourself a new mark 3!   :o
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 12:29:03 AM »

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 12:53:27 AM »
OK, so a Sandisk Extreme (not Extreme Pro) will run as fast as the camera will let it then? Amazon UK are doing the 32GB for £37, which is a hell of a deal:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q3C98S/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1

So if it's going to be fast enough, I'll get it.

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Also, is this something an eventual Magic Lantern can un-ruin?

I've a couple of the 16 & 32 gb extreme video cards they are great on my 60D - they don't clog the buffer with raw or video.  The 95 extreme pro clears the buffer faster than Canon's specs indicate possible even when writing full raw & jpeg,  Also the read speed is blazing if you need fast downloads - about 3* faster. I've also been using one just for editing/backup for print projects.

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Re: 5d markiii officially wont use SDHC UHS-1?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 06:48:35 AM »
OK, so a Sandisk Extreme (not Extreme Pro) will run as fast as the camera will let it then? Amazon UK are doing the 32GB for £37, which is a hell of a deal:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q3C98S/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1

So if it's going to be fast enough, I'll get it.

--

Also, is this something an eventual Magic Lantern can un-ruin?

I've a couple of the 16 & 32 gb extreme video cards they are great on my 60D - they don't clog the buffer with raw or video.  The 95 extreme pro clears the buffer faster than Canon's specs indicate possible even when writing full raw & jpeg,  Also the read speed is blazing if you need fast downloads - about 3* faster. I've also been using one just for editing/backup for print projects.

Cheers, this is useful. The extreme pro is pretty expensive, given the 5D3 will ignore it's speed! I think a 32gb extreme will be a more than acceptable backup card for veedjo and pics.

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 06:48:35 AM »