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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2012, 07:26:06 PM »
I cant wait to get my sigma 85 f1.4 on it and test it out,
Is it just me or is this week going extremely slow!

It is slow...and for me I feel like the next month will be soooooooooooooooooo long to wait for the 1DX when I see how the 5DmkIII promises to be!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2012, 07:30:34 PM »
and for me I feel like the next month will be soooooooooooooooooo long to wait for the 1DX when I see how the 5DmkIII promises to be!

True...but I console myself with Chuck Westfall's comment that the 5DIII will have the best high ISO performance of any Canon camera to date...except the 1D X.  So if the 5DIII is a measurable improvement over the 5DII, and the 1D X is better than that...it'll be worth our wait!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2012, 07:39:51 PM »
Hi guys,

Below link is in Norwegian and contains mk 2 vs mk 3 image comparisons with  EF 85mm f/1.2L II. To see the images, click on the respective grey line. First appearing image will be mk 3, if you point on the image, corresponding mk 2 image shows...

http://www.akam.no/artikler/sjekk-bildekvaliteten-pa-5d-mark-iii/107530

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2012, 07:49:34 PM »
Hi guys,

Below link is in Norwegian and contains mk 2 vs mk 3 image comparisons with  EF 85mm f/1.2L II. To see the images, click on the respective grey line. First appearing image will be mk 3, if you point on the image, corresponding mk 2 image shows...

http://www.akam.no/artikler/sjekk-bildekvaliteten-pa-5d-mark-iii/107530


Can that dynamic range test possibly be right? Worse than the mk2 and 7d?

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2012, 07:57:23 PM »
My Norwegian is very limited but it looks like that is what the reviewer is suggesting...  :o

Also, it seems to be a pre-production model used for the test...
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2012, 08:09:51 PM »
I really can't believe someone would call this "stunning". The colors look horrible!

There are no shades of black; everything turned magenta as the 5D Mark II used to do.

I'm attaching a photo taken with the Mark II at ISO 25600.
It's as sharp as the Mark III, and the colors look as bad.
I don't see any improvement.

Just some details: Canon 5D Mark II + EF 50mm 1.2 L USM @ f/16 1/45s ISO25600

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 08:11:41 PM »
and for me I feel like the next month will be soooooooooooooooooo long to wait for the 1DX when I see how the 5DmkIII promises to be!

True...but I console myself with Chuck Westfall's comment that the 5DIII will have the best high ISO performance of any Canon camera to date...except the 1D X.  So if the 5DIII is a measurable improvement over the 5DII, and the 1D X is better than that...it'll be worth our wait!

Hey neuroanatomist.... You know I just sold my 5D II, so don't make me sell my 5d III and buy 1D x now. >:(       :) :)
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2012, 08:19:57 PM »
Norwegian looks like a difficult language  :o
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 08:33:28 PM »
and for me I feel like the next month will be soooooooooooooooooo long to wait for the 1DX when I see how the 5DmkIII promises to be!

True...but I console myself with Chuck Westfall's comment that the 5DIII will have the best high ISO performance of any Canon camera to date...except the 1D X.  So if the 5DIII is a measurable improvement over the 5DII, and the 1D X is better than that...it'll be worth our wait!

Really did he really say that?  The ...except the 1D X... part?  I guess I missed that.  That would be worth the wait indeed!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 08:37:32 PM »
Just so we make it fair, I downloaded the .CR2 file of one of the pictures from the first dpreview link. The picture of the two ladies, the last one on that topic.

I opened both (my cat picture and dpreview's ladies) side by side on Photoshop at 100% with nothing applied at the RAW conversion.
They are attached to this post. The ladies picture on the left and my cat on the right.

Can someone please explain to me how we can call the Mark III raw files "stunning"?
To me they look essentially the same: lots of noise; blacks turned magenta; no fine detail at all.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not complaining about the Mark III.
But I just don't see the reason to upgrade IQ wise...

BTW: I love my Mark II and pre-ordered the 1D-X. It's time to go PRO! :-)
BTW2: I have a similar comparison between the 5D Mark II and my 20D at ISO1600: virtually the same!

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 08:46:50 PM »
I think what makes these type of comparison so difficult is that different lighting situation will create different result in terms of noise (I am referring to past real life tries here), so until we see some studio test for example from dpReview and being to compare those to the same studio test for the 5DmkII it is difficult.  I always felt noise on an animal (like the cat) shows up less then on human skins...

I am not dismissing your point zackck, just that personally I was never able to take such clean picture at ISO 25k with my 5DmkII and likely we should wait for the real test before saying the improvements are not there.

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 08:53:54 PM »
and for me I feel like the next month will be soooooooooooooooooo long to wait for the 1DX when I see how the 5DmkIII promises to be!


True...but I console myself with Chuck Westfall's comment that the 5DIII will have the best high ISO performance of any Canon camera to date...except the 1D X.  So if the 5DIII is a measurable improvement over the 5DII, and the 1D X is better than that...it'll be worth our wait!


Really did he really say that?  The ...except the 1D X... part?  I guess I missed that.  That would be worth the wait indeed!


Rob Galbraith indicated that Westfall stated that.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 08:58:01 PM »
Cool then!  DPReview just posted the ISO sample for the D800.  Does not look that great to me.  Think the 5DmkII is better in that front...  :D
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 09:31:12 PM »
Hi guys,

Below link is in Norwegian and contains mk 2 vs mk 3 image comparisons with  EF 85mm f/1.2L II. To see the images, click on the respective grey line. First appearing image will be mk 3, if you point on the image, corresponding mk 2 image shows...

http://www.akam.no/artikler/sjekk-bildekvaliteten-pa-5d-mark-iii/107530



...and here is their conclusion at the end of that article (from google translate):

conclusion

As for picture quality, it is to launch a successor to the 5D Mark II in many ways to jump after Wirkola. Just picture quality was 5D Mark II's strongest field, and it is the age, despite still some of the sharp one in the market when it comes to this. When Canon still managed to give the 5D Mark II one of the most noticeably improved image quality, it is somewhat impressive, although we still are a bit between satisfaction. For although the increase is there, it is less than we wish. When Canon has chosen to barely increase the resolution, one should be allowed to have aspirations for a greater increase in overall image quality than this. Detail reproduction is good, and good noise level, while the noise is very very smooth. The noise level could, however, with advantage have been even lower, and this would also done wonders for dynamic range, which ends up being disappointing stuff.

All in all, we are cautiously conclude that although the image quality is improved in most areas, this is not in itself a good enough reason to replace the Mark II to buy the Mark III. There are all the other improvements in speed, auto focus, control, build quality and features and capabilities, which should be the decisive factor for it. If not, keep your beloved 5D Mark II a few years.

If this holds water when it finished the camera, fully supported by various software, comes on the market, we will of course come back to a full test.


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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 09:48:29 PM »
I would be more confident of this test if the images lined up properly. 

Comparing the 5DmII versus 5DmIII shots, it looks like the images are at different distances and focuses.  They are just way too different imho for a lab result.

And of course this is a pre-production model.

But I am watching for results.

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