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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2012, 01:56:28 PM »

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5,  Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4
Does LR4 already support the 5D3 files? I just checked my copy of LR3 and there is no update for the 5D3 yet and I have heard there will not be one forthcoming.

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2012, 02:07:42 PM »

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5,  Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4
Does LR4 already support the 5D3 files? I just checked my copy of LR3 and there is no update for the 5D3 yet and I have heard there will not be one forthcoming.

My mistake. I used CS5/ ACR to render the RAW and apply NR, not LR4. I did not use CS5's NR in PP but only while opening the Adobe camera RAW.

Did jpegs only in LR, it did not recognize RAW's. I did the RAW test in CS5 which uses similar NR engine, it was able to pull the CR2 files, and I have not yet loaded the software that came with the 5D3 yet. Hope it helps.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2012, 02:09:05 PM »
I have shot the 5d3 in ISO 25,600 and while the jpeg is very useable, I cannot get the same level of clarity from the RAW using LR4 noise reduction. I can dial up the NR more, but then the image gets much softer than the jpeg.... OTOH, if I apply slight amounts of NR to the jpeg, it gets very clean and clear as well...

Kind of a mixed result since I love the flexibility of exposure control in RAW...

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5,  Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4


This is peculiar.  The opposite would be expected, of course.

I wonder if it has to do with the RAW conversion into LR4? I've been impressed with the sharpening/NR since it was added in LR3, it's all I use right now as I almost always get better results than Dfine.

My mistake. I used CS5/ ACR to render the RAW and apply NR, not LR4. Once image opened in CS5, no further (PS) NR was applied.


But yes, I did find it peculier that the jpeg was cleaner at first pass.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2012, 02:52:38 PM »
Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release?  Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR?  How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files?  This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it.  Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?   
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2012, 03:28:49 PM »
Here are some sample shots from my 5D3 with 24-105mm f4.0 L

ISO-20000


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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2012, 03:30:54 PM »
And at ISO 25600, both shot handheld, with little lighting in the room (a single CFL ligth):


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« Reply #66 on: March 21, 2012, 03:32:15 PM »
This one was shot with a flash (430 EX), ISO 100:


ISO-100

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« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2012, 03:36:16 PM »
Not bad indeed!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #68 on: March 21, 2012, 03:53:04 PM »
Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release?  Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR?  How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files?  This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it.  Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

EDIT: Just checked, I have infact 6.7 . So it all makes sense now.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2012, 04:15:26 PM »
From what I was able to try, LR4 which has the latest version of ACR has much better NR then LR3 for details...
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #70 on: March 21, 2012, 04:17:46 PM »
Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release?  Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR?  How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files?  This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it.  Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

ACR 6.6 isn't currently supporting Canon 5d 3 files... Ironically is supports Nikons D800, but for what it's worth... The 6.7 beta (you would have to go to adobe labs website and download the beta... isn't the full version but allows you to play with the 5d3 in photoshop.  Still needs some work but not bad.  I would install DPP and give it a try because until adobe releases ACR to officially support the 5d 3 in a full release, you may get funky results in 6.6
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2012, 04:22:15 PM »
Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release?  Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR?  How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files?  This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it.  Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

In order to have gotten ACR 6.7 you would have gone to http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw6-7/?tabID=details#tabTop  This is the one, while a beta, "supports" the 5d3 and 1dx
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2012, 07:29:26 PM »
Couple of shots at 25600.  First jpg with zero NR (except camera NR). Second is RAW that was processed in ACR 6.7 with Luminosiy NR = 47.

100% crop. No resizing

Judge for yourself how good the jpeg is on the noise.

The color seems a bit off on the RAW, could be a color profile or 6.7 beta issue... can't say nor have I researched this more.
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« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2012, 07:37:09 PM »
Wow!  I am impressed man!  Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2012, 08:53:33 PM »
Wow!  I am impressed man!  Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

I was at my daughter's musical an hour ago... tooks some snaps at various ISO's with 70-200 mk.II   with  a 2x iii  @ 400mm 

unfortunatly ISO "only" 12800 when I checked   ;D.

The pic has been PP'ed. Resized etc.

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
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